this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2023
57 points (100.0% liked)

politics

19072 readers
4661 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Sen. Wendy Rogers shared sexual images of Hunter Biden with her more than 300K followers on Twitter, where users have to be at least 13 years old to sign up.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why does everything blatantly illegal that a Republican do need to be caged as 'may' when it is clear as day that they did it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My best guess is they do this to prevent defamation lawsuits against themselves. The person can't come back and say XYZ news corp accused me of posting revenge porn and tarnished my reputation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the exact answer. It's also the reason why, for example, most major news outlets refused to call Trump's lies "lies" for years. A word may have one meaning in everyday conversation, but has a completely different meaning that carries infinitely more weight in a court of law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tarnished their reputation by stating facts?

Seems like a reasonable defense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a fact until they are convicted.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if I drive 100 mph through a school zone it isn't a fact until I'm convicted?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

More specifically in cases of defamation, it would be on the news agency to show evidence (and that they had the evidence at the time) that what they wrote is true. Now whether they have the evidence is one issue, whether they want to reveal the evidence and by extension their sources is another. So even if the news agency has the evidence to back up its claims, it may still choose to throw in "may" and "allegedly" rather than to have to show these things in court.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It isn't, in this case. It says the law may have been broken. Until a prosecutor comes along and goes for an indictment, then the person is convicted, saying that they broke a law isn't a fact.

It's splitting hairs for casual conversation, but when it comes to making a public statement, you run into libel issues.

So, while it grumpy definitely is a fact that the pictures are released, and that she did so, no legitimate press is going to say she broke that law, only that she may have. If she's indicted, then they could say "charged with", or similar language. But until a jury in a criminal case renders a verdict, the press as a whole wouldn't be protected if they said she broke the law. Well, there's other things that would clear that language for use, but they still involve determination of guilt in the courts

Basically, it covers their ass.