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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why would they do that I presume they like the rhinos because they are killing people on their behalf

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s almost as if accountable killings being backed and cheered on by powerful governments and business interest attracts the wrong crowd. If Jeff Dahmer was stronger and smarter im sure he would’ve applied to similar organizations .

https://newspaper.animalpeopleforum.org/1999/04/01/can-mercenary-management-stop-poaching-in-africa/

Operation Lock was apparently the first major privately funded African antipoaching project, and may have been the most sinister, not least because poachers may have been among the major beneficiaries of it.

“To implement Operation Lock,” Ellis wrote, “Dr. Hanks commissioned KAS Enterprises Ltd., whose chair was the late Sir David Stirling, the founder of the Special Air Services. Many of the KAS staff were former members of the SAS. The initial aim was to gather intelligence, but it developed into a more ambitious project to employ former SAS men for paramilitary anti-poaching work throughout Southern Africa, and bought equipment from the South African Defense Force. At least £75,000 of Prince Bernhard’s donation was used to buy rhino horn.” As Ellis added, even then it was no secret that “Many of the ivory and horn traffickers in southern Africa” were “also known to deal in drugs, weapons and ammunition, sometimes with the conivance of senior officers of the South African Defence Force.”

Craig Van Note, executive vice president of the WWF subsidiary TRAFFIC, outlined what WWF already knew in a mid-1988 article for Earth Island Journal. “The South African military,” Van Note charged, “has cynically aided the virtual annihilation of the once great elephant herds of Angola. Jonas Savimbi and his UNITA rebel forces in Angola, largely supplied by South Africa, have killed perhaps 100,000 elephants to help finance the 12-year-old conflict. Most of the tusks have been carried out on South African air transports or trucks, although some move through Zaire and Burundi.”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Corruption? Indian rangers are basically police. They're uniformed and armed, and apparently have orders to kill. ACAB

I was in a car once when the driver accidentally went into a restricted forest area, and he just gave the guards a bribe to let us out without punishment. They're presumably better than the actual police generally, but in the tribal areas they can be just as bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

taking a bribe because someone kinda broke the law without causing harm is not the same as killing the animals you are supposed to protect, like whole orders of magnitude different.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not saying those two are the same things. However I read some articles where tribal people and villagers claimed to be shot on sight for wandering into parks, then tortured for protesting this.

My point was just that the sentiment for forest rangers in the US or elsewhere doesn't necessarily apply to India. The forest department might be more like the Bureau of Indian Affairs in some cases

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

However I read some articles where tribal people and villagers claimed to be shot on sight for wandering into parks, then tortured for protesting this.

that's interesting. much more compelling than the other things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Think about the kind of person that would sign up to murder other people.

You think they wouldn’t shoot an innocent person for fun?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yanks must like oil corporations - after all, they are killing people on their behalf.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They do like oil corporations yes.

That's like what the US is known for. Liking them so much they invade countries

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Right? What a bizarre attempt at a dunk

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Or even just do straight up high seas piracy of oil tankers, like with Venezuela and Iran