Onionket 5 is This Weekend, August 19th and 20th
The 5th Onion Comic Market (or "Onionket") is coming up this weekend, and the event catalog is available for everybody to browse now. Over a dozen artists, writers, coders, and more share their work with the world, free from the fear of censorship.
Onionket is a decentralized, censorship-resistant online doujin/art festival hosted exclusively in the Dark Web. Onionket gives artists a SIMPLE, FREE, and CENSORSHIP-RESISTANT way to distribute their work. Using an open-source program called "OnionShare", each artist creates and hosts their own simple .onion website on the Tor network. Onionket collects and publishes a catalog of these links, allowing others to browse and access them.
Each site is totally under the artist's control, making censorship impossible. And being on the Tor network means heightened privacy for fans and artists alike. Many artists also have support links and wallet addresses for Monero and other cryptocurrencies, should any followers feel like supporting their work.
There's also the official Onionket 5 Livestream, hosted on PeerTube on Saturday, August 19th, from 2pm to 4pm, and again from 9pm to 11pm JST. Chat with circle owners and other participants will be available in the live window, as well as an OnionShare-powered Tor chatroom, a Session Closed Group, and an XMPP chatroom over Tor provided by our friends at Libreshack
https://peertube.anon-kenkai.com/w/fw3FVDxM8VYZsUTMBSJsJv
The Onionket 5 catalog is now available on our main site, as well as mirrors on a noJavaScript page, a Tor onion site, and an i2p eepsite. Check out the circles, and if you see something you like, feel free to visit over the two days of the event.
Join Onionket, and together we can say NO to censorship
HOMEPAGE
https://onioncomic.market/catalog/
NoJS
https://onionket.com/catalog.html
TOR
http://cfxnvps5mxzdfh7aw5gwhhx2hmbr5vbww4m4m3znk6sjxnrd6l7bvnid.onion/catalog.html
As much as I like the use of Tor, Monero etc I can't help but think this is just marketing for a bunch of child molesters to distribute sexualized drawings of small children. That's what this is, right? Besides using monero, which is just like using cash, how is this relevant to the Monero community?
I can see your point + I know nothing about this OnionKet thing. Generally, though, afaik, Dōjinshi is not a kid porn, abusing real-life, existing children. Those stories are typically based on manga/anime, where characters are totally fictional, unrelated to real-life children at all (thus no real victims, except ethical questions are still possible). In some countries, drawings of non-existing (fictional) persons may be still illegal. In some other countries, they're legal (as in Finland, maybe). That's what I think, though not too sure and I'm not a dōjinshi writer/reader at all. Honestly, not sure how "bad" they are.
But generally, it's a nice thing that creators try something new, something experimental, fighting back against excessive, censorship (not to say, it'll be absolutely good, though).
＠onionket_[email protected] よく分からないけど、うまくいくといいですね＾＾ 弾圧の口実を与えないように、あまりにアレなのは排除した方がいいかもみたいな気もするけど。。。とりあえずグッドラック♪
Oh I'm aware that it's victimless, entirely fictional and so not morally wrong. But it does tell me something about the individuals who partake and so I am free to make my own judgments about people. I think, if I took bets that the individuals who enjoy it also would (or do) enjoy children sexually I'd probably come out ahead financially. I don't like those kinds of people.
Besides, I still fail to see how it's relevant to discussion about Monero.
True. It's not much related to Monero. OP only says, "Many artists also have support links and wallet addresses for Monero" i.e. "accepting donations in Monero" which is nothing notable. (Many devs accept donations in XMR.) If they like Monero, that is good (though nothing more)...
Making such bets on people you know nothing else about shows how much of a shallow judgmental person you are
OK well you enjoy stumbling through life with no heuristics, I'm gonna make sure my kids don't get fucked. If I misjudge a few people along the way, what does my opinion matter to them anyway.
"If I offend other people by implying that they wanna molest children even though I know nothing about their lives, personalities or socio-economic backgrounds them so be it! What does my opinion matter to them?"
Yeah, great use of using one single variable in your heuristics there. I'm sure that's how scientists conduct their research
I don't give a fuck if I offend someone. And you don't either, these drawings offend plenty of people, I don't see you changing your tune about them. Nobody should ever give a fuck if they offend someone.
Look man, if youre going to tell me that my heuristic is coming out of left field you're delusional or disingenuous or both. I do know something about their lives, I know that they enjoy drawings of children getting fucked. I don't think it's a stretch to conclude that the percentage of child molesters in that set of people is probably higher than ambient.
It is a stretch. Researchers can't even find a conclusive link between watching actual child porn and actually molesting children (emphasis on 'actual', not even 'fictional').
And you're here telling me that you are more intelligent than them in deciding whether such a link exists or not.
You either have done no research when basing your 'heuristics' on, or you are deliberately ignoring it and just trying to call people that commit a victimless crime "child molesters" because of your "heuristics".
Man, I sure wish the police would also use shoddily designed heuristics to decide when to arrest a person
Lol man you've got to be joking. If """researchers""" can't find a link between CP and child molesters then yeah I am more intelligent than them. Who are these researchers BTW?
Alright look, I don't think drawings should be illegal. I don't even think promoting this onionkon thing should be banned off this server, my whole point was that it's irrelevant in !monero. Go, enjoy your drawings. Jack off to them if you want, I don't care. I'm just not inviting you over for dinner, as is my right. Also, I'm going to continue to assume that you're a child molester, which is also my right.
I suggest you read actual research before trying to appear smart on the internet. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_child_pornography_and_child_sexual_abuse
Do whatever you want.
Assuming is the only thing you've been doing all this time, apparently.
Really sad I can't come over to dinner to someone who's more intelligent than actual scientists though. Real bummer.
Lol that research is about whether watching CP causes people to become child molesters, not whether they're more likely to already be a child molester. Are you really going to argue that child molesters aren't more likely to be the target audience for CP? That if I pick a random group of CP enjoyers, and a random group of people, that there won't be a higher proportion of child molesters in the former group? You're being serious?
Youre being sarcastic, but you're proving a point I made: You don't care what my opinion is, like I said. You're not trying to be my friend.
I'm not arguing that. You're the one who's disingenuous, though, since you've been arguing the reverse all along.
It's not that child molesters are more likely to consume CP, it's that you're saying that people that consume CP are more likely to be child molesters. That's what you've been arguing for all along, and now suddenly you switched to arguing the reverse now, when you're losing the argument.
If these two statements are the same to you, then I would suggest not bothering with using heuristics. You're clearly not good at understanding scientific data
@mister_monster Given the Monero community is made up of individuals, I'm sure each one of them will be happy to make up their own minds about how relevant this is or is not. But if the Monero Town administration asks us not to post here, we'll happily respect their wishes.
Our personal feelings are that Monero is the best choice of privacy-respecting online digital currency, and we encourage its use as part of the event. The Onionket Mitra, which factors into the event, is also set up to use Monero exclusively for monthly subscriptions... we are essentially an XMR powered Patreon for our participants. I imagine that would be of relevance to the Monero Community as well:
https://onioncomic.market/mitra/
https://onionket.com/mitra.html
http://cfxnvps5mxzdfh7aw5gwhhx2hmbr5vbww4m4m3znk6sjxnrd6l7bvnid.onion/mitra.html
With regard to your other implications, users of privacy software are no strangers to being accused of drug-dealing, pedophilia, and worse. As such, no offense is taken. Just to be clear, though, Onionket has a set of rules for all participants which are clearly posted on our About page:
https://onioncomic.market/about/
https://onionket.com/about.html
http://cfxnvps5mxzdfh7aw5gwhhx2hmbr5vbww4m4m3znk6sjxnrd6l7bvnid.onion/about.html
We have neither the ability nor the inclination to police the lives of participants outside our event, but we make a good faith effort to screen all participating content, and exclude anything that falls outside of said rules. If we find any clear violation of individuals' rights in the process, we would forward it to any relevant authorities and make this fact very clear. After 5 events, this has never become necessary.
Thank you for sharing your views in this matter, however.
I agree that this is off-topic, next time post to [email protected] or something similar. Regarding the content itself, per German constitution:
Art. 5 Absatz 3 Satz 1 bis 3
„(1) Jeder hat das Recht, seine Meinung in Wort, Schrift und Bild frei zu äußern und zu verbreiten und sich aus allgemein zugänglichen Quellen ungehindert zu unterrichten. Die Pressefreiheit und die Freiheit der Berichterstattung durch Rundfunk und Film werden gewährleistet. Eine Zensur findet nicht statt. (2) Diese Rechte finden ihre Schranken in den Vorschriften der allgemeinen Gesetze, den gesetzlichen Bestimmungen zum Schutze der Jugend und in dem Recht der persönlichen Ehre. (3) Kunst und Wissenschaft, Forschung und Lehre sind frei. Die Freiheit der Lehre entbindet nicht von der Treue zur Verfassung.“
TLDR: Artistic freedom is guaranteed. CSAM laws say drawings are fine. Conclusion: You are free to advertise your event because I don't have to go to jail. Just don't post it to !monero next time.
@admin Understood, we'll make sure to use the appropriate community in future. Thanks for the clarification.
While the baltics won't raid my house and seize my electronics, I'm not so sure that the Germans wouldn't anyways if I were to host extremist content. Media is actually hosted in Germany again (surprisingly better legal situation than the balitcs).
Weren't you hosting this server out in the baltics? Why are you still beholden to the german """ laws""" ?
This isn't about your use of Monero, this is about your plain as day advertisement of your interests. You're acting like my implication (it was more than an implication, I used plain, candid language) follows from your use of Monero or comes out of the clear blue sky. This is absurd. It flows from the content on your site that you are advertising.
I'm very aware that drawings are victimless, fictional and so no harm is done. I don't think it should be illegal for you to draw them and share them. But I'm also not stupid and am free to make my own judgments about people using my own intellectual faculty. If I took bets about the sexual proclivities of the fans of this type of art I'm certain I'd come out financially ahead. I'm sure there are naïve people out there who buy the whole "it's just art" line. My interactions with you don't lead me to conclude that you're a naïve person.
The admin of this site is free to make his own determination about whether this is relevant, which is why I brought attention to it.