Lol people hold on to that wargame so tightly as some Pinnacle of triumph over western armed forces, but the reality of the situation was that the sub commander in question went rogue and did something they weren't supposed to do in order to win. Also at the end of the day it's a fucking wargame, it's practice, and nobody really cares how well you do in practice because it's all about how you perform in the big game.

Also as you noted the Americans did what we always do when situations like this happen, we game planned for never letting it happen again, this was an embarrassment for the US Navy, and you can bet it's something they're constantly working on never letting happen again, these are serious professionals who's lives revolve around continuously planning ways to win against any situation while losing as few of their people as possible.

as recently as 2005

You do realize that's almost 20 years ago. That's like saying "well you realize in 1985..." Back in 2005.

(The 2000s have been a blur for me time wise too)

Thanks for the serious answer even when I was making a stupid joke/reference.

As I replied to someone else, that is very interesting.

My thoughts: It does seem extremely limited for its advantage though. The electric mode is basically a stealth option, but once they fire or do anything else then should be findable and that electric mode probably won’t last THAT long if they were being hunted actively.

Range is infinitesimal comparatively. A nuclear submarine can operate continuously under water for 6 months. An old diesel sub needs to resurface after something like 12-18 hours.

Thanks for answering seriously even when I didn’t.

Interesting that they are quieter! I never would’ve guessed that. Thanks for sharing.