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Why is everything going to shit? (feddit.de)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Was just trying to explain to someone why everything is going to shit, specifically companies, and realized, I don't fully get it either.

I've got the following explanation. The sentences marked with "???" are were I'm lost. Anyone mind telling me, if they're correct and if so, why?

The past few years, central banks were giving out interest rates of 0% or even negative percentages. Regular banks would not quite pass this on, but you could still loan money and give it back later with no real interest payments.

This lead to lots of people investing in companies. As long as those companies paid out more money than those low interest rates, it was worthwhile. But at the same time, this meant companies didn't have to be profitable, because they could pay out investors from money that other investors gave them???

This has stopped being the case, as central banks are hiking interest rates again, to combat inflation???

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks! I guess, I posed this question badly as most of the other folks came here to philosophize or rant.

If you're doing those moonshots and a company isn't profitable, does that mean you don't get paid out in the meantime? You just keep your money in there, because the company's valuation rises, which makes your x% company ownership worth more, right?

Right, and with inflation, we just need to slow it, i.e. stretch it over a longer period of time, because we have automatic processes in place to adjust for a certain rate of inflation over a fixed period of time (like for example work contracts that include an automatic pay raise every year).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess, I posed this question badly as most of the other folks came here to philosophize or rant.

Not really, that's just how this place is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, part of posing it badly was to post it to AskLemmy, because yeah, this is more just an opinion community. I probably should've gone to some finance-related community, but couldn't think of one, off the top of my head...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

does that mean you don't get paid out in the meantime?

Usually, yup. Investment deal structure varies but generally that's the case. You can sometimes borrow money to buy out an original investor, which is what I think what part of your earlier explanation bit meant.

Right, and with inflation, we just need to slow it, i.e. stretch it over a longer period of time

Basically, yeah. We kind of just accept there will be some degree of inflation... I don't recall any arguments as to why zero inflation would be bad but I think inflation's existenxe is just a fact of economic life. So we want to spread it out in an orderly fashion so those processes you correctly listed can quietly do their thing.