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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't love being spied on and shit but that's a pretty basic requirement. You can probs just call people on the app.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How is it a basic requirement? No apps should be able to make and manage phone calls apart from your caller app. Even WhatsApp does not need this, and apps that use cellular calling can just open the phone number in the caller app, as they do when e.g. you click on a number in chrome.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Whatsapp does in fact need this to make calls

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Basic as in most apps from the app store has that requiremnt

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's crazy. Wasn't like this even 5 years ago NGL.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Im not disagreeing that the level of privlage escelation is insane and beyond the pale, it is. I am merely pointing out that singling out one app for requesting this promission when thus has become the industry standard is, at best uninformed and at worst feels like your trying to hide something

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

Honestly I had no idea this was an industry standard, this is the only app I've seen in the past 10 years which requested such a permission. The last one was "Siri" for Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread off Android Market, and it stole 15 RUB from me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Literally just let's calls interrupt our manage focus state.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Never had a problem receiving a call while in sync

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Sync doesnt take full screen control with audio and video so it's quite a bit different

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Android's fucked up permissions scheme makes even a flashlight app look like horrible spyware.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

But in this case it doesn't apply, and you don't actually need the camera permissions to enable the flashlight and haven't for a very long time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have never once seen a robust permission model be easy to use or explain to folks who don't care.

Do you have a suggested alternative that's going to keep privacy and security advocates happy, while being easier to use?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

pretty sure thats so you can answer phone calls while the app is open

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's not at all how that works. Of course you can be called and answer phone calls while any app is open without any permissions, it just changes to the caller app. Have you literally never taken a phone call while on your phone before?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

no need to be a cunt about it just tell me im wrong