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cross-posted from: https://kbin.projectsegfau.lt/m/[email protected]/t/26889

Google just announced that all RCS conversations in Messages are now fully end-to-end encrypted, even in group chats. RCS stands for Rich Communication Services and is replacing traditional text and picture messaging, providing you with more dynamic and secure features. With RCS enabled, you can share high-res photos and videos, see typing indicators for your...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (17 children)

The fuck does this have to do with Apple?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Apple purposely will not integrate this to keep a walled garden around their ecosystem and make messaging between apole/Android a shit experience.

In a perfect world everyone would just adopt rcs, it's better for consumers but Apple only gives a shit about branding/$$$.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Aside from the fact that Google finally implementing E2EE in RCS not having anything at all to do with Apple, I’m confused.

Apple developed a fully encrypted messaging system 16 years ago, 4 years later RCS was developed but wasn’t even adopted by all three major US carriers until 2 years ago (much more complicated than just this as they refused to work together on Universal Profile standards and Google has so ‘valiantly’ stepped in to do it without them), and Apple is the bad guy for not switching to a competitors standard that was (until now) less secure, uses googles back end services, is arguably less capable, has an extremely poor desktop access experience, is less intuitive to enable, and takes away a competitive advantage? All while other E2EE messaging apps have been available on both iOS and Android for years.

Why not push for google to adopt iMessage as a standard instead? Maybe google has been holding iMessage back for 16 years. Maybe Apple isn’t holding rcs back but carriers are. Or maybe it’s the GSMA. Or maybe it’s a larger systemic issue with capitalism. Or maybe it’s one of any number of other issues that makes it disadvantageous for Apple and Google to work together on this.

This article, cancerous as the site is on mobile, does a good job breaking down the issue and how it’s not as clear cut as folks here are trying to make it: https://www.androidpolice.com/google-rcs-messaging-feud-apple-imessage/

At the end of the day, y’all being angry at Apple about RCS sounds just a bit like simping for google and falling prey to their marketing campaign to try and win the messaging war. Im not really interested in experiencing another chromium situation but with messaging. Particularly when WhatsApp is king in the messaging space globally.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Why not push for google to adopt iMessage as a standard instead?

Because that would ruin Apple's business model of 'your friend doesn't use iMessage because they have an android and thats on them'

They wouldn't make money off of iMessage being on androids, which they've shown with other things to be the only thing they really care aboyt.

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