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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (6 children)

Biden's pick Lina Khan deserves all the credit for aggressively prosecuting anti-competitive practices. However, Gina Slater looks like someone capable of continuing that work and a legitimate admirer of Lina Khan. Yes there are ties to Vance and the FTC office is likely to end up beholden to the egomaniac in chief. So the whole "little man" thing aside (that's baloney), that's one person that's not a shit stain out of all the shit stains in the incoming cabinet.

Look Lemmy, you're welcome to choose what you want in your life and what you don't. But being too rigid with letting stupid opinions of a project's founder cause you to reject everything, would have you miss the big-picture benefits of having such a project exist. If you look at this Lemmy development co-leader's opinions on transgenderism, are you going to stop using this software that lets you converse on an LGBTQ+ safe-space instance with no involvement on a social level from said developer/founder?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

transgenderism

At risk of going slightly off topic, trans people aren't an -ism. It's not an ideology, though transphobes love to frame it that way (not saying you are).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah I was trying to summarize in a word how the linked comment used it, the developer was not talking badly of trans people per se, but was critical of how their group and the cause to express their identity is being misused by the ruling class. I imply that it could be transphobia, but I'm not certain if it is, even if I understand why it would be an upsetting and hurtful take for some. If there's a better way to describe this succinctly with a more respectful framing, I'm open to alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Vance, the U.S. vice president-elect, has said antitrust officials should take a broader approach to antitrust enforcement, and praised the work of Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan

Reading this confuses me greatly because republicans, especially Jim Jordan from what I remember, have been harassing and preventing Lina Khan and the FTC from taking action against big corporations.

Hell of she is doing such a great job, why fire her and replace her with a snake whose views are the antitheses of Khan's outlook.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

The flaw was to assume there's a connection between what Republicans say and what they do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago

No, it's not only one person in the board. They confirmed their stance via their official Mastodon account. https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

But being too rigid with letting stupid opinions of a project’s founder cause you to reject everything, would have you miss the big-picture benefits of having such a project exist

That's the truth. The reason online "communities" constantly argue and never get anything done is because everyone is focused on not doing the wrong things that they forget about doing the right things. A while ago I saw a post making fun of some chuds who compiled a list of "woke" video games that they wanted to boycott. The people in this thread deciding to leave proton because its ceo said something positive about trump once don't strike me as much different.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The lemmy devs may have opinions, but they've never interfered with blahaj zone or anything

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Precisely. And this is much in the same way coming from the CEO and Proton official accounts. Republicans use Proton, just as much as Democrats. Until I see evidence that Andy Yen's misguided philosophy leaks into Proton's offering itself (and not just their PR channels), I'm willing to give benefit of doubt. Part of it seems to be not wanting to get on the wrong side of their leaders. As a reminder, these are the leaders that have been given a blank cheque from both voters and the justice system to do whatever they please with dissidents.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

A CEO or any kind of leader gets to determine the path that their organization takes. Slater may seem good now; but we won't know until the proof shows up in the pudding, so you can only try to guess based on whom she take orders from. (Fwiw: I hope you're right)

Bourgeoisie liberals do indeed use the transgendered in the same way that they used gays back in the 1990's, as little more than a virtue signal and now (just like back then) they retreat from that virtue signal when it no longer suites their purposes.

Unlike the Democrats & other liberals; there is plenty proof in Lemmy's pudding of its creators' intentions. The generations long reconciliations that LGBTQIA people had to struggle & die to force acceptance in the western world; despite the Democrats; is now falsely appropriated to pink wash anyone/anything who disagrees like it is here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I get you. It's important to remember there is nuance on topics/people you agree and disagree with, rather than jumping to "is against transgenderism", or "agrees with Republicans on everything".

Like you say, actions will speak louder than words. The further the Proton team can put their product and governance away from these opinions the better. The transition to non-profit structure is a positive step in that regard.

edit: forgot an important word in my comment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

if actions speak louder than words, then what does it say about your pink washing attempt?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Can you elaborate on what you mean by my pinkwashing attempt?

note: I clarified my previous comment that was missing a word.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

this one:

... If you look at this Lemmy development co-leader’s opinions on transgenderism, are you going to stop using this software that lets you converse on an LGBTQ+ safe-space instance with no involvement on a social level from said developer/founder?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Is the pinkwashing part when I use this opinion as an example of questioning transgenderism? I don't personally have a problem with the opinion highlighted, but again I do not speak for everyone, and I understand not everyone would agree. The point of using this example is not about the opinion itself but what that disagreement should extend to.