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Yea, in the case of Star Wars, there's a lot of borrowing from old ideas and mythological forms as well as the samurai and western genres that I'm not sure it entirely counts ... it probably sits in its own little category of sort of fairy tale literature brought to film, which is an achievement in its own right.
Directly stole characters from samurai films too. 2 characters in Hidden Fortress act exactly like R2 and C3PO
Iβm sure there are other examples
The spear fight in HF was really cool.
Almost all 'new' ideas borrow from old ideas. If we don't count Star Wars, then there's nothing we can count.
It's not just about borrowing from older ideas, it's about the extent to which star wars was knowingly channeling a certain kind of story structure that has old cultural roots.
The Lion King would be a similar-ish example. It's basically Hamlet, which Shakespeare based on an older Viking story (AFAIU) ... so it's just one of those stories that's out there.
None of which is to criticise Star Wars, just to argue that it stands separate somewhat.
Donβt forget Dune
As an influence ... for sure!
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