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Humanity loophole: you can pay people less if they're from prison. (slrpnk.net)
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So all we need to do is find a way to put people in prison!

Win-win!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was going off of this:

RAMEY: We focus on the expungement process. So Gavin Newsom passed a law - I think about four years ago now - and what it pretty much does is help people that come out of, like, California Conservation Camps - being able to get their record expunged, which is amazing because it provides an opportunity where folks can, you know, apply to not only just fire careers, but, like, you know, they can have a brand-new life.

But you're right, I guess expungement is not a guarantee but it is something.

And I did say

The alternative is dystopic again

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

expungement is not a guarantee

It's only a guarantee if you've got lawyer friends or the money to hire a pro. But then how does that benefit unemployed felons?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It’s only a guarantee if you’ve got lawyer friends or the money to hire a pro. But then how does that benefit unemployed felons?

The guy I quoted is the co-founder of a non-profit.

1:

During pre-release, FFRP participants gain important information and resources needed for successful career planning. During post-release, FFRP participants receive critical job coaching, on-the-job training, paid work opportunities, and ongoing professional development. FFRP strives to ensure formerly incarcerated firefighters have the support needed to find long-term career success once released from state correctional Conservation Camps.

2:

In addition, the nonprofit works with other partners to help participants navigate the court system. In 2020, California passed a law that allows formerly incarcerated firefighters to petition the courts to expunge their convictions upon release. If they win approval, they don’t have to wait until their parole ends to apply for jobs within municipal and county fire departments or to pursue the EMT credentials required of most full-time, higher-paying firefighting positions.

With the help of the Legal Aid Foundation of Los Angeles, the fire recruitment program has successfully filed 38 petitions, 12 of which have been granted so far, and 21 of which are pending.

(from 2022)

Although my "not a guarantee" was with the context of a federal judge pushing back.