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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Little robot crossed against the signal, and couldn't navigate the curb, big robot cali rolled the right turn and didn't yield to the pedestrian walk way. What a shit show. Glad it wasn't someone in a wheel chair.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So what we're saying is, this is it, folks. We've finally reached robot parity with exactly how humans would behave in the same situation.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago

Not quite.

We'd need the waymo cab to start screaming about how the robot just jumped right out in front of it, and how they should stay the hell out of the way.

Then we'll have reached parity.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

how *Americans would behave.

We really don't want Americans' autonomous vehicles here.
sincerely,
Europe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Neither would we if we had more trains...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Provided they both run on time and don't cost more than an airline flight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, yes we do. False advertising / promises aside, autonomous vehicles will likely result in lowered accident and death rates. Until we've reached the point that we've eliminated private cars entirely, autonomous vehicles would be a step forward.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Absolutely not. All of that is false. Autonomous cars in the US have not shown to have a lower accident rate compared to human drivers. This whole idea of increasing speed limits will also greatly increase the fatality rate of pedestrians and bicyclists.

As was already mentioned in the thread, autonomous cars are trained on American drivers. American drivers are so bad that they're not allowed to drive in Europe if they're not a tourist. Here in Sweden, the traffic fatality rate rate is 20 a year per 1 million people, and dropping. The current fatality rate in the us is 129 deaths a year per 1 million people and rising. 43000 dead a year. 0.1% of the US dies off every decade to their own shitty driving. Letting AIs trained by Americans drive cars in Europe will be a bloodbath.

American roads are developing-country bad. I was in DC last month and saw a dozen people with children in the car, texting while driving. I emigrated out of that country and got a real driver's license here in Sweden. Keep American car culture out of Europe.

Every European country already has proven autonomous electric vehicles called trains, we don't need Tesla and Google trying to sell us their shitty US version.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

and didn't yield to the pedestrian walk way.

The Waymo is guilty.

The scene was clearly visible and it hit the brake much too late at that speed.