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Those nations already have nukes. 🤣
And you think Khrushchev was more sane than Putin? The guy who was putting nukes in Cuba?
Yes, Krushchev was more sane than Putin. When he misjudged the Cuban missile situation, he wound his neck back in and went elsewhere to stir up shit. He also dismantled the Stalinist cult of personality. He wasn't a great guy, but he was also not a psychopath like Stalin or Putin.
Even Stalin had nukes and didn't use them.
Psychopaths can be pretty logical at times.
I don’t have an opinion on krushchev, but I do know that putin needs to be a strong man to keep power.
You’re proving my point though - they already have nukes. Why does Ukraine need nukes? If things are going nuclear it’s all over in a few minutes anyway as whoever strikes first (US or Russia) will be retaliated against immediately by the other, and then everything ends for everyone except for the few unlucky survivors. Why stoke the fire and make that outcome even more likely?
If MAD is working then Ukraine doesn’t need nukes it’s got nuclear allies. If MAD isn’t working then we’re all gonna be fucked in the near future, we all lose and nobody, not even the billionaires in their bunkers, wins.
Wut? No it doesn't - it supports the theory that MAD is "working" since nobody has launched any nukes. Why hasn't Putin nuked Ukraine? I thought Putin was insane right?
Because I doubt NATO would be wiling to retaliate on their behalf. Trump sure as fuck won't and Europe would be far to weak to do so IMHO.
Frankly I believe the way Russia "wins" this whole thing is to simply show Ukrainians that siding with "the west" was a bad idea. Once Trump withdraws US support the war will go very badly. Public opinion will turn on "the west" for abandoning them and towards Russia.
There’s still time! Reminds me of the investing advice adage - current performance does not predict future results. My opinion is that they are all insane. But then again I naturally distrust people who seek authority. And re Putin’s insanity specifically, are you aware of his backstory of how he came into power in Russia? He’s shady as hell to his own people.
That’s a fair point. But IMO that’s another move towards further conflict (which would ultimately pop off to nuclear war after either side got tired of attrition) rather than towards peace.
Also I don’t see how the west “abandoning” Ukraine would make them suddenly buddy buddy with Russia who’s currently killing them. That makes no sense.
Stalin also had nukes BTW.
Nuclear weapons are very political. In the US it's the only weapon whose use is authorized by the president alone. Putin may not care about a NATO response but he does care about keeping those under him in check. A nuclear response could be very bad for them which would also be bad for Putin. He still needs to keep the fat cats fat.
Not buddy buddy per se - but you need to remember that some people in Ukraine are still sympathetic to Russia and think Ukraine should have sided with them. This would give them a lot of rhetorical ammo for some time.