It presents a slight problem when the ones they're bringing in to deal with the shitty politicians are the people who paid them to be shitty in the first place.
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Been happening since Watergate and the right decided instead of running good politicians, they'd make a propaganda machine to convince their voters that down is really up.
This allowed them to dive even further into corruption, and take a bunch of dirty money that helped them in elections.
The wealthy elites quickly realized political bribes were so cheap, there was no reason to bribe only one of the only two options.
That brought the rise of neoliberalism, and both parties only caring about the wealthy and deregulating campaign finance and journalistic integrity because both allows them to take more bribes.
Kamala had a ~$1,500,000,000 campaign in like a month and a half.
There is zero reason a campaign (much less one against a candidate as bad as trump) should ever cost that much. The money and time of modern campaigns isn't spent on getting votes, it's spent on raising more donations from the rich. They never reach a point where they meet the fundraising goal, even after the election I was getting spam asking to donate to Kamala/DNC. Because the "victory fund" nonsense gets rolled over to the next candidate chosen by the party before primaries even start.
Whoever the party backs in 2028 will be able to use that to compete in the Dem primary.
The whole thing is completely fucked, and it's a game we literally can't win with the DNC if they just keep doubling down. Their chair election is in about a month. Depending on how they vote we'll see if the party reinvents itself, or if it's truly a lost cause and we need a new party. One who's focus is on getting votes and not as much money as possible
Well put. It blows me away how many people think that problems are straight forward when in reality, they're all intertwined together
I mean, it shouldn't be surprising...
It's the result of decades of propaganda, most people don't notice anything political until at most a teenager. So most under retirement age don't know anything else. And the ones who are old enough, can't remember and are the main propaganda targets.
For most Americans we've spent our entire politically active lives where both parties bow to the wealthy and instead focus on wedge issues and pressured to vote for their "team" even tho they don't want them, just to stop the other "team".
Hell, I know all about this, have for a while. But I've still voted straight party D for decades because I legitimately don't have a choice. The problem is conservative voters are by nature more likely to motivated by fear of "them". There's actual brain differences that can predict party affiliation with like ~70% accuracy, which is fucking huge when you consider ~1/3 of voters don't vote or waffle between the two options.
Larger/more active amygdala? You're a conservative and fear is a huge motivater.
Larger/more active prefrontal cortex? You're a "bleeding heart liberal" who wants everyone to be taken care of.
It's not like it's set at birth, even well into adulthood your brain can change. But without completely going on another tangent, for decades now the part of our education system that develops the prefrontal cortex has been getting sliced off. So I don't understand why people were surprised the people coming out of that system are more conservative.
We aren't born well adjusted humans, it takes work to socialize us like any other animal. And we just stopped putting in the work.
A few things because this take is so cynical I think it hurts political engagement overall. A campaign donation is not a bribe. There is nothing wrong with spending money to help your party win in a system where that's legal.
Also i might have misunderstood but it seems like you were implying Kamala didn't spend her campaign money on her campaign. You can find a breakdown of her campaign on open secrets and 80% was spent on advertising and marketing the rest went to admin, salariers etc. You can find a list of expenses to scrutinize them further.
There is no carry over fund, the fund raising that was done after is due to campaign spending more than the funds and trying to cover the debt.
The DNCs problem is the right wing propaganda machine. They have the policy that appeals to majority of the voters. They have the politicians that appeal to the majority. They just need to make people realize it.
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Legal is not "right", especially when I explicitly stated that both parties are deregulating campaign finance.
Do you have any idea what the "victory fund" is? It's bankrupting Dem state parties and the first election states received less than 1% of the funds they were supposed to.
See it works by "bundling" the max to a candidate and the max to a bunch of state parties, then the lump sum is sent straight to the DNC/candidate in a joint access account. Prior to this grift someone had to actually send that money to the state party for them to use.
But I mean....
Even just knowing what a PAC (let alone a super PAC) is should show you that political.bribery has been legalized.
Nothing wrong with an individual giving the ~3k candidate max, but Elong Musk just paid a quarter of a billion to get trump elected.
I didn't read any of your comment past that first sentence, because it is such a fundamental misunderstanding that explaining anything else would change drastically after you get that. Before anything else is covered you need to accept the current reality that the only two political options in America are actively working to legalize political bribery
And it's clearly effective, because it's working on you....
You are just wrong. A campaign contribution/donation is not a bribe no matter the amount. A campaign contribution only becomes a bribe if there are illegal strings attached which on the dems side there is little to no evidence for.
The campaign spending is clearly and openly spent on the promoting the candidate to voters. You are lying about campaign money being spent on donor fundraising and you have no evidence to suggest any of the donations came with strings attached. You think because one party acts like one way the other must be doing the same.
I think you fundamentally misunderstand how the system works and you are thinking in the realm of conspiracy instead of just looking at how things are.