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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't know about this case, I can definitely imagine him raping that girl.

But from a European perspective, saying minors cannot consent is definitely one of these very stupid US takes. It is honestly insane that in the US 18 is treated like a god, and if one partner is some months older, it's illegal.
Obviously, minors can generally be influenced more easily than older people, and it's important to have safeguards in place, but such a statement is just genuinely ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s not the case in this scenario, and rarely is. It varies by state, but Romeo and Juliet laws are common, which cover these kinds of circumstances.

Basically, the law will set an acceptable age gap where consent can happen; If the gap is 5 years, then a 17 year old won’t be able to consent to sex with a 30 year old, but can with an 18-22 year old. So it helps maintain the “this is obviously a child who was groomed by a creepy middle-aged person” statutory rape laws, while still allowing kids to date each other.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

In some states they just straight up do the European thing where all that matters is being at least 16. In my state the age of consent is 16 and that's also the age where you can be tried as an adult. They recently voted on whether or not to raise the age, and they decided no.

There is still push for that to be changed, though only for the age of being tried as an adult. The former they're kinda keen on keeping where it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It is honestly insane that in the US 18 is treated like a god, and if one partner is some months older, it's illegal.

You'll be relieved to know that this is never the case.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Let me tell you about Wisconsin: We regularly bump 17-year-old offenders into adult court. So, yes, we have had cases of 17-year-old couples tried as adults for having sex with a minor after they had sex with each other.

If the implication of that fact hasn't sunk in I'll make it explicit: We treat them as adults for the purposes of being a criminal, and a minor for the purposes of being a victim.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Ok that one is on me. I don't know why I expected Romeo and Juliet clauses to have some level of consistency in all states.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Actually it happens all the time