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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

and the engineers I know who are still avoiding it work noticeably slower

yep yep! as we all know, velocity is all that matters! crank that handle, produce those features! the factory must flow!!

and you fucking know what? it's not even just me being a snide motherfucker, this rant is literally fucking supported by data:

The survey found that 75.9% of respondents (of roughly 3,000* people surveyed) are relying on AI for at least part of their job responsibilities, with code writing, summarizing information, code explanation, code optimization, and documentation taking the top five types of tasks that rely on AI assistance. Furthermore, 75% of respondents reported productivity gains from using AI.

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As we just discussed in the above findings, roughly 75% of people report using AI as part of their jobs and report that AI makes them more productive.

And yet, in this same survey we get these findings:

if AI adoption increases by 25%, time spent doing valuable work is estimated to decrease 2.6% if AI adoption increases by 25%, estimated throughput delivery is expected to decrease by 1.5% if AI adoption increases by 25%, estimated delivery stability is expected to decrease by 7.2%

and that's a report sponsored and managed right from the fucking lying cloud company, no less. a report they sponsor, run, manage, and publish is openly admitting this shit. that is how much this shit doesn't fucking work the way you sell it to be doing.

but no, we should trust your driveby bullshit. motherfucker.

[–] knightly@pawb.social -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lol, using a survey to try and claim that your argument is "supported by data".

Of course the people who use Big Autocorrect think it's useful, they're still using it. You've produced a tautology and haven't even noticed. XD

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago

christ, did someone fire up the Batpromptfondler signal

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it may be a shock to learn this, but asking people things is how you find things out from them

I know it requires speaking to humans, alas, c’est la vie

[–] knightly@pawb.social -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It may be a shock to learn this, but asking people things is how you find out what they think, not what is true.

I know proof requires more than just speaking to humans, alas, c'est la vie.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

did you know the report also publishes the details of its analysis methodology?

my god, where are you people coming from today

[–] knightly@pawb.social -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Did you know that all reputable surveys publish their methodology?

Did you know that, regardless of how you analyze the results, a survey is still just a survey?

If LLMs were worth the hype then you'd have actual proof of utility, not just sentiment.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a pretty funny interaction when you realise that you just misread the froztbyte's self-reply (and the survey) as pro-AI, so you were just aggressively agreeing with each other all along

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

(why I was not as harsh as in earlier comments)

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago

If LLMs were worth the hype then you’d have actual proof of utility

you think I'm promptfan-posting? impressive.