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[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

apart of me still holds out that we don't need this type of system to push progress, taking america for example, this will not go well and many lives will be lost as there will be "both sides" and they will stay divided. The propaganda machine from Eurasia has worked. There plans are moving quite well, and i for one, will not play into that hand.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Lives are already being lost. Today, approximately 186 people will be murdered by their insurance companies through the wrongful denial of life-saving, medically necessary care. By raw body count, Brian Robert Thompson killed far, far more people than Osama Bin Ladin ever did. The health insurance industry racks up a 9/11 worth of deaths every 16 days or so. That is how many people are currently being murdered by the private health insurance industry.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I understand that's a problem you guys are facing the US. But what will you achieve with violence? You know what trump will do. This is not going to play out like the movies. I can't sway what your choice will be, but i fear for everyones lives who participate in a civil war with US government, and russia will swoop in and support as Putins plans have intended.

[–] RavingGrob@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't have to look to movies, to see what violence can achieve. And it's not violence alone that makes the change.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Exactly. It's the combination of peaceful movements and violent movements that make change possible.

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