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Yo, we're in Trump land now, Fascism already won my dudes. Biden is just seeing the writing on the wall and adapting to the change. Trump already pardoned Jared Kushner's criminal dad, so why not pardon your own son now? The game is changed and if you're still holding on to ethical ideals you're a fool. At the very least Biden is making sure they can't chase his son as part of a witch hunt next year.
People voted for Trump or failed to turn out for Kamila, either way everyone now needs to get used to the new norm.
EDIT: The irony of blasting Biden for going against his word in his son's best interest while Trump is about to become president is the most laughable hypocrisy I've ever seen. If this group is actually just a bunch of super leftist and not foreign manipulation then I look forward to watching y'all eat crow as Israel wipes out Palestine, the US leaves NATO, and western democracy collapses.
No no no, you don't understand. We're not responsible for the consequences of our voting decisions if Kamala ran a weak campaign.
Not a USAmerican, so not exactly talking about the politics, but some issues.
Why not?
It's not like Trump is supported by the leftists in lemmy.
It just shows them that Biden is not very different from Trump. They have been saying that and pushing for 3rd parties or other President nominees.
Biden chooses to do this rather than set guardrails or do something to ensure that Trump is not given free reign.
This is further validation for their view.
And since Trump becoming president is a grave thing, does it mean that the Democrats are bad, because they have not done enough to stop it?
Palestine is being wiped out even under Biden.
US leaving Nato would be big, but we can never know how the effects would be like, right?
Yeah it is weird how self righteous liberals react towards being shown over and over that their group is to blame for this shitshow.
But I doubt the US will ever leave NATO without a coup happening in the US. The US would basically lose more than half their geopolitical influence.
Do you think Hunter Biden is safe in the US justice system with Trump in charge?
Oh no a rich brat that actually didn't pay his taxes and lead a life of luxury and drug use would be attacked for all those things and because his daddy held a welcome in party for fascists whatever will those of us unable to afford shelter and food do?!?!
Sure, your feelings are valid. Just explaining his actions, not justifying them.
Do you think Hunter would be protected from his own wrongdoings if his dad wasn't president?
Clearly not, but what's your point? Biden is president. Not saying it's right. But I think it's what any parent would do. Hunter isn't some moral monster. He's just messed up more than anything, in the way a kid in his situation might.
Not justifying it, but executive power is insane. Trump will break the law far more destructively with respect to Hunter then this pardon, or at least that's the fear I imagine Biden has.
Not like either side is helping us. Kamala, Democrats, and Joe biden ran the last 4 years quietly and campaigned on no change. They lost the election by not convincing 250k voters in 4 states to not vote for them.
Joe biden pardoning his son is his legacy. Joe said he would be a one term president then tried to run for a second term ruining a primary. Democrats chose Kamala harris and she accepted. This country was founded on old people letting go of power and stepping aside and down. If George Washington wanted to he could have been a king. The old dems are grasping at power and control rather than trusting a populist candidate.
Joe Biden could be abusing his power and fighting for change from the bully pulpit to affect Americans and make an outcry but instead went back in his word twice and pardoned his son abusing his power for selfish gain.
Kamala instead of campaigning to fight hatred and cause change went with joy and changing nothing . She even capituatated to right wing talking points moving Democrats to the right. Even though policy wise leftist policy is good and ppopular policy.
Lastly the democrats ran a Hilary Clinton style campaign being a nerd with stats and defended institutions. Obama won because change Biden won because change.
Nah you just don't get it cause everyone else is to much of a ducking stupid imbred moron who didn't get to go to the good school that I went to to realize how I am right about everything in their life and that dumb people don't have a right to complain because they are stupid anyways and it proves they can't be trusted until I educate them better which I don't want to do because I am living a better life than them in every way.
So like it's not the Dems fault and people should just accept what's best for them and be ready to be used as a scapegoat whenever we throw a tantrum for things not going out way and just leave without doing anything cause they don't even deserve kindness anymore even though we have totally been kind the whole time!
/Hard S
But tell them they are talking to people all wrong and suddenly we are all Russian bots, or trolls, or secretly Trumpers cause true friends (good followers) should just accept them as already perfect like they see themselves.
Ugh.
Not like the democrats immediately accepted Republicans and framed leftists as the problem with their campaign while moving to the right
This bit is generally in response to the fact that the only time this rhetoric is heard is right before an election. Where was this talk and push for change the last four years? Where were the mass protests when Biden was in office and might have listened to a shutdown? Or at any point when the world wasn't staring down the barrel of a new hitler?
You can want positive change from your own political party while also acknowledging that they are still standing on higher ground than an actual Nazi. Time and a place for each.
We just get ignored cause it isn't a problem for liberals until elections.
I kept protesting, I kept saying the same thing. Lots of other people too! I even tried to get into political positions and worked with others in them to be told no and still constantly ignored.
Just cause you are ignorant to the conversation and the work still going on and only hear about it cause it's an election and you are paying attention does not make it our faults.
No liberals wait until it's the brink of disaster and complain that it's everyone else that didn't do enough to make you stop and pay attention while the whole time liberals constantly tell everyone to pipe down and not make a fuss.
How dare you blame us for not doing more. You want to see the failure of the system look in a mirror and stop blaming those of us screaming to desperately get anything done.
All the trolls that were “liberals = genocide” or “eggs are $99” or “cant afford gas” while completely ignoring normal egg prices, seriously low gas prices, and trump’s plan to let the Israelis do whatever they want have switched to “Biden bad because pardon!” Again, completley ignoring trump’s pardons of criminals in his administration, family by marriage, and the fact we got a law absolving the president of any “crime” committed while president if the (captured) SCOTUS says it’s fine. But no…who cares about trump. Biden bad!!
Troll? Listen you absolute piece of shit. I sat with my wife while she was talking her friend in Beyrut. The friend had her family bombed. Your country did that. If I ever have a choice between genocide in america and fighting against fascism here, well, I hope you have a place to hide.
Very well said. I'm NOT looking forward to watching anybody eat crow if all that shit happens. We will have far more pressing concerns than gloating over a bunch of petulant dickweeds who didn't show up. They didn't, and that's that. The reality is settling in that America may be about to end - like every civilization does. It was fun while it lasted - Cheers!
No, it wasn't, it was and still is a fucking genocidal shitshow right from the start to the end which can't come soon enough.
Wow, the liberals are straight up admitting their monstrous racism now?
This would be good for the Global South, which is why Trump won't do it
The West hasn't had a workable implementation of Democracy to begin with, though if you finally recognize that are you going to sit out or do something about it?
It's not an issue that actually affects them so they only pretend to care when it's easy, then swap back the moment there is no backlash or they get what they want enough to not have to pretend again. That's like the whole shtick of a liberal.
But we got to love them cause they are the superior liberal.
Yep. Rainbow Imperialism and all that. Weaponizing treating marginalized groups slightly less bad and just watching with glee when the slightly worse group does what it does. Liberals don't actually care about marginalized people, which is why they shift from advocacy to sadism so easily.