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[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact that you "know it's a talking point" but don't know the statistics makes me feel that you should re-think who created the statistics in the first place and why.

[+] teslasaur@lemmy.world -8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/00027162221120759

Data for this study comes from the LIS, which is an archive of cross-nationally and historically harmonized individual-level nationally representative datasets. U.S. data in the LIS come from the Annual Social and Economic March Supplement of the CPS. The main advantage of using the LIS over the underly- ing CPS is the higher-quality and improved income measures that comprehen- sively incorporate taxes and transfers and therefore yield improved poverty measures. I analyze twenty-five waves of LIS data for the United States from 1995 to 2018. I select this time period because it includes all the U.S. datasets for which all variables in the study are available.1

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmfao, from your article:

it seems more research exploring the role of structural forces (e.g., the labor market, policies, racism, etc.) would be a fruitful avenue for advancing our understanding of the enduring racial inequality in child poverty and the penalties attached to child poverty risks.

Even your article calls out that racism is a major factor that should be studied. Glad you agree.

[+] teslasaur@lemmy.world -11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not the argument. Nor is there an argument here. The question could be boiled down to: are there more black single mothers? Yes, categorically, unequivocally yes. Doesn't say anything about the fathers race though, granted. I kinda went by the fact that most couples are not "mixed race". Which is a bit presumtous by me, but not a bad presumtion given history.

Haven't made any claims of any reasons. Just that it is. And therefore the last statement in the meme is kinda meh and sticks out among the others.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I asked you to think about why a stat might be popular.

You cited an article without personal comment.

I quoted your article back to you.

You refused to acknowledge the citation as a factor in your statistic, but also don't have another argument without that statistic.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

You didn't ask me anything? You made a slightly condescending comment.

You quoted something that isn't relevant to my point. But i acknowledge the existence of a flaw in my thinking, in that the fact doesn't say anything about the race of the father.

A statistic isn't popular, it just is. And the meme is dishonest for pretending it doesn't exist.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

What's the point you're trying to actually make?

the last statement in the meme is kinda meh and sticks out among the others.

If it sticks out you're missing the point of the chain of statements.
It's not that the other statements are or are not statistically justified, it's that making comments to people that are clearly being made because of their race and perceptions about their race is something that tends to happen regularly to black people and other minorities, and not so much to others.