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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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LessWrong House Style (2023) (awful.systems)

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https://nonesense.substack.com/p/lesswrong-house-style

Given that they are imbeciles given, occasionally, to dangerous ideas, I think it’s worth taking a moment now and then to beat them up. This is another such moment.

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[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok rationalwiki actually seems like a really useful resource for reading up on which sexy new movements are bullshit and which aren't

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It is, but I would say that as it is aligned to what I think about these folks. It is also a funny site in a way that a lot of these weirdos go "rational wiki sucks, is not rational and lies!" Before reading the pages they are mad about, and afterwards go "yeah no that is fair" after reading it. Happend quite a few times with the "skeptic" yt people in the yt'er to alt right funnel/pipeline from a decade ago. (A few of these people have really lost the plot now, armored skeptic is now some believer in aliens for example. I dont think anyone has cared enough about him to update his page however).

[–] hrrrngh@awful.systems 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

RationalWiki really hits that sweetspot where everybody hates it and you know that means it's doing something right:

From Prolewiki:

RationalWiki is an online encyclopedia created in 2007. Although it was created to debunk Conservapedia and Christian fundamentalism,[1] it is also very liberal and promotes anti-communist propaganda. It spreads imperialist lies and about socialist states including the USSR[2] and Korea[3] while uncritically promoting narratives from the CIA and U.S. State Department.

From Conservapedia:

RationalWiki.org is largely a pro-SJW atheists website.

[ . . . ]

RationalWikians have become very angry and have displayed such behavior as using profanity and angrily typing in all cap letters when their ideas are questioned by others and/or concern trolls (see: Atheism and intolerance and Atheism and anger and Atheism and dogmatism and Atheism and profanity).[33]

From WikiSpooks (with RationalWiki's invitation for anyone to collaborate highlighted with an emotionally vulnerable red box for emphasis):

Although inviting readers to "register and engage in constructive dialogue", RationalWiki appears not to welcome essays critical of RationalWiki[3] or of certain official narratives. For example, it is dismissive of the Journal of 9/11 Studies, terming it, as of 2017, it a "peer- crank-reviewed, online, open source pseudojournal".[4]

And a little bonus:

"Can I have Google discount my rationalwiki entry, has errors posted out of spite 10 years ago"

https://support.google.com/websearch/thread/106033064/can-i-have-google-discount-my-rationalwiki-entry-has-errors-posted-out-of-spite-10-years-ago?hl=en

My site questions Darwinism but that's become quite mainstream. But my rationalwiki page has over 20 references to me being a creationist, and is tagged "pseudoscience." Untrue

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Perfect.

Damn librals!

E: Saying Darwinism when you mean evolution is quite something btw. Ow god he also is ancient, from 1939.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Happend quite a few times with the “skeptic” yt people in the yt’er to alt right funnel/pipeline from a decade ago. (A few of these people have really lost the plot now

I would love a separate thread on this, more generally a “late 2000s/early 2010s skeptic ytbuers, where are they now”?. The only example (sorta*) I have is thunderf00t, whose yt career track is: anti-christianity, anti-anita sarkeesian, and now anti musk.

*he is not alt right, at least by any mainstream definition of alt-right, afaict.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I would love a separate thread on this, more generally a “late 2000s/early 2010s skeptic ytbuers, where are they now”?

Personally I'm not going to waste much time on it, every time I see somebody post/make a vid about one of the older people it gets really sad and weird. Shadiversity (while not a skeptic) turned into a big weird (or well, went mask off), stuff like that.

E: I'm also not sure if YT is even still big, income wise, for people or if people go more to twitch for livestreaming shit and then double dipping by uploading edited streams to yt.

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 5 points 2 weeks ago

@swlabr

"anti-christianity, anti-anita sarkeesian, and now anti musk."

2 out of 3 ain't bad.