this post was submitted on 01 Dec 2024
512 points (98.7% liked)

Technology

60101 readers
1987 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm struggling to think what one can even do with just two ethernet ports of different speeds. It's begging to be used as a gateway, VPN or firewall but you can't because you'll top out at 1G anyway. And assuming one of them is the LAN side, supposedly it'll be going to a switch so the router will never see LAN traffic anyway, only stuff through it which hits the bandwidth limitation.

I guess technically one could bond the WiFi and 1G link to make use of the 2.5G link? Or as an AP like it's got 2.5G upstream and passes through another AP down the line using the 1G port.

Very questionable specs.

E: it occured to me this looks like a potentially really good standalone AP if you give it 2.5G upstream and then branch off to another device down the line like some Ubiquiti ones do. But the form factor is ugly as hell to be mounted on a ceiling...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Usually the routers you install OpenWRT on are really a CPU with one port to a VLAN-capable switch, and the port labeled WAN on the device is just VLAN'd separately by default. One cool thing OpenWRT lets you do on "normal" hardware is change the VLAN settings on the switch ports which are not accessible under stock firmware.

But if they are shipping "just" the router piece and making people go get their own VLAN-capable switch, I'm not sure what hardware exactly they expect people to use? And I'm not sure what being connected to the switch over one real 2.5G cable is going to do to LAN/WAN throughput, vs. how a "normal" router ties the CPU into the switch through means not known to mortal minds. Maybe it is just as good, maybe it is a huge bottleneck. It is definitely going to add cost over the $89 sticker price.

But if most people are just going to run fiber modem straight to WiFi, maybe this is the right config actually?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The key there is the switch does most of the work in hardware, so you can have 1G going between all ports with no CPU usage, so the internal 1G port doesn't matter as much, and the hardware acceleration lets it efficiently handle routing across VLANs without involving much of the internal port. Those internal switches can usually handle VLANs and basic NAT nesrly entirely on its own.

With a single external 2.5G port you lose that because your traffic will have to go in the router and back out to the switch to cross VLANs, so it's basically a 1.25G link. And it needs to be a managed switch too since the router doesn't come with a built-in one anymore. Best you can do is software VLANs but the other device will need to also use the VLAN explicitly in that case, as there's no switch to give you untagged ports.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

So you would have to pair this with a switch that not only does VLANs but also somehow does your NAT for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago