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In response to Donald Trump’s re-election, some same-sex couples, like Ben Nelson and Adam Weinberger, are accelerating plans to marry, fearing potential rollbacks of LGBTQ rights.

Concerns stem from the Supreme Court’s 2022 overturning of Roe v. Wade and past statements from conservative justices suggesting interest in revisiting the 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges ruling that legalized same-sex marriage.

While the Respect for Marriage Act offers federal safeguards, uncertainty persists.

LGBTQ-friendly businesses are stepping up to support couples, but fears of broader restrictions, including on parenting options, remain widespread among the community.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Do these people not realize that the government can just invalidate their marriage and punish them?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Breaking up marriages is recognized worldwide as an act of genocide, but putting restrictions on who can marry isn’t as universally recognized.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The world hasn't cared about genocides since 1945.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

The world has never cared about a genocide that happened within a nation's borders.

Had Hitler not invaded other countries, there wouldn't have been any consequences more severe than a public condemnation.

Hell, there would have provably been foreign support for genociding Romani people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Rwanda and further Yugoslavia are both exceptions to your statement

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The world at large shrugged its shoulders at Rwanda. France literally handed over people under their protection to the Interahamwe, knowing full well they'd be killed on the spot. Belgium actually had soldiers get killed by Rwandan military, and did nothing. The world went to very incredibly great lengths to make sure that they didn't have to get involved until after the genocide was nearly complete.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well yes, most caring about genocide is afterwards. Surprisingly few people that fought for the Liberation of Europe did so because of their care for the date of the Jewish population of Europe and Russia.

The Armenian genocide went unopposed and even a UN peace mission failed to stop the massacre at Srebrenica.

In order for something to be unanimously labeled genocide it has to be over the top (extremely so, look at Gaza today) and very ugly and blatant.

If there's one take away from history is that tribalism is so strong in humans that they will kill each other over fucking trivial stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yugoslavia is an exception, but Rwanda only happened because the world didn't care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Plenty of people cared about it. Afterwards, which is usually the case. WW2 was not very different as most caring was fine after the fact.

Even the UN peace mission did little too stop the Srebrenica massacre.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Odd statement. The world has cared a lot more about genocide after 1945.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yet, has there been a full effort to stop the genocide?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not at all what I said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

saying they care and showing they care are very different things

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

They did it to my mom. She and her partner drove to San Francisco on that weekend when they were doing gay marriages in the mid 2000s. That ,marriage was canceled once they straightened iut the laws.

They're legally wed right here in Arizona now, but I wouldn't put it past these fucks to try to annul their marriage again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure Trump really cares about international law

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

He doesn't care about domestic law. I doubt he would care about laws he personally enacted if they stood in opposition to his in-the-moment wants.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'd personally be afraid I'd be putting myself on a termination list tbh, but others are probably braver than me.