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[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The legal system is the perfect place for working out nuanced issues like this.

If I were a lawyer and making this lawsuit I would argue that "publicly available" does not mean "public domain", and that without acquiring usage rights for the data then you don't have the right to use the data.

If the courts rule against a decision like this then that would mean that any website that hosts any materials that can be accessed without an account must then provide that material to any person who accesses it free of charge which is a gigantic consequence to this nuanced issue.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'd just bury them in GDPR notices, which quite a few people did

[–] Breve@pawb.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

My point is that you can't talk about usage rights of a dataset without talking about a specific use case. The suggested use case was to provide a static test dataset for systems developed to use the firehose API, but the dataset could be used for literally anything from making funny memes (fair use) to training a LLM model (arguably not fair use). Does the existence of an illegal use case automatically mean the dataset itself should be illegal though?

As a collorary, a photocopier can be used to create unauthorized reproductions of copyrighted works. Should making and disturbing photocopiers be illegal because they are capable of and used in the process of violating copyright law, or should we accept the photocopier absent of a use case isn't breaking any laws and go after the people who use them to illegally create unauthorized reproductions?

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

A data set isn't like a photocopier in any meaningful way.

It's not a tool, it's information, and some of it counts as personal data under EU data protection laws.