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Triggering WWIII with other nuclear powers is the right thing to do?
It gets easier by the day to manufacture consent
And enabling authoritarian regimes to do what they want is the right thing to do? Fuck you.
Supposing all of that were true, it wouldn't matter.
Defending Ukraine against unprovoked foreign aggression would still be the right thing to do. Because a free Ukraine can eventually have a better government. An occupied Ukraine cannot.
Unprovoked? Looks like you don't know half of what's going on
Unprovoked? The Nazi puppet government was slaughtering ethnic Russians in east Ukraine for years prior to the invasion, while allowing NATO to deploy droves of troops and missile deployments at the Russian border.
Ah, sorry, my mistake.
I took you for someone who was at least attempting to argue in good faith.
I’m not gonna stick to the western narrative, if that’s what you mean.
That's fine
If you could stick to reality at least, though
I don’t know what to tell you. Those things happened. It’s just not flattering for the US, so it’s not mentioned much in the news.
Maybe in your head, sure
I happen to be close friends with quite a few Ukrainians, I know your comment is complete bullshit from my own lived experiences
How much they pay you for the garbage misinformation attempt?
Yeah, none of those links back up what was said by the dipshit claiming NATO has troops on the Russian border
Keep posting links that don't say what was originally said, eventually you'll make a point worth reading, maybe
Where is the goalpost now?
Goalpost hasn't moved at all, NATO didn't deploy troops, nor is the war about Nazis in Ukraine
Spam links all you want, you can't change reality
You won’t read reality 🙈
Your lived experience does not outweigh historical fact. Obama similarly escalated Ukraine tensions on his way out, and deployed a significant number of troops and missile deployments to the Russian border, which Trump then pulled out and the media spun as Trump loyalty to Putin.
And human rights orgs were raising alarm bells about ethnic Russians in East Ukraine being slaughtered for years by the Nazi government. Is your lived experience also supposed to weigh more heavily than that?
Ask your Ukrainian friends why the government keeps naming streets after and erecting statues of famous Nazis from history. I’d be interested to hear the spin on that.
Yeah, cuz none of that is true lol
You should write your own article about how your “lived experience” cancels out all of these.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/the-obama-administration-recklessly-escalates-confrontation-with-russia/tnamp/
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/03/08/wdtz-m08.html
Source?
https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TC/
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/the-obama-administration-recklessly-escalates-confrontation-with-russia/tnamp/
Is there any actual proof of this genocide that you can point me to?
Asking for real.
You do not hold elections during a war if your constitution says so. Many countries do it this way. Russia can hold as many elections as it wants because those are not real elections.
The Russian propagandist troll has been removed.
"Slaughtering ethnic Russians" cool you just made that shit up.
"NATO moving missiles to the border" dumbass they aren't IN NATO how the fuck would they have NATO missile emplacements. Also, even if they had, you know how a fucking border works right? It is THEIR territory they can put as many fucking missiles on their side all they want
So your knowledge of Ukraine and The Donboss started, what, 2 years ago?
Oh, it's the edgelord who is fighting an imaginary battle on the internet. How's that been going for ya, champ?
It doesn't matter whether it's true or false, it's enough that Russians are also saying it.
You consistently have the most brain dead takes on Lemmy, bravo
Because I won't contribute to your echo chamber?
TIL triggering ww3 is when you don't allow one nation to invade and conquer another.
I guess we should just stab Ukraine in the back then, right? I mean, screw those people, who cares, right? Is that what you're saying?
The US has been screwing them using Ukrainians as human shields to fight their proxy war.
How exactly does that answer what I said? What should we do? Abandon Ukraine, and let Russia take it over? Do not proselytize please. Examine the situation and come up with a course of action.