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All the other brands went along (slrpnk.net)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We’ve prioritized “intuitive” over “efficient.”

I would argue, overall, it's more efficient to aim for the former than the latter, especially if we are talking about the wide range of people who need to use a computer.

But I'm curious as to the "actions per minute" type of efficiency that people are talking about here. I'm an engineer, who has moved into computer programming. I would say the bottleneck for me is never that I have to move my hand to my mouse, but it's always about thinking and planning. I feel like this "it's so much more efficient" is viewing us as almost machines that are just trying to output actions, rather than think through and solve problems.

The net result was a populace that didn’t need support as much, because they were used to reading the docs. If a component died, the docs would tell you how to diagnose and fix it.

I think this is more of a problem that it went from an extremely niche thing, to something that almost everyone is required to use, rather than a move away from keyboard only. Or, maybe, the rise of the mouse opened the computer to everyone being able to use it, which is why it has become so ubiquitous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

actions per minute

To me it's more about ergonomics. Most of my time is spent reading code and sending messages. I use ViM or at least ViM bindings for reading code because it's so much nicer for navigating code than clicking and scrolling:

go to definition? - gd
find in file? - /query
match braces/quotes? - %

I'm not saying everyone should learn ViM, I'm just using it as an example. I'm much less concerned about maximizing my text entry speed and more interested in maximizing ergonomics of the tools I use the most every day. For me that's my text editor and terminal, followed closely by my browser.

I have no problem with a good mouse UI (I love mouse mode in ViM), my problem is when there isn't an alternative power user UX (shortcuts and whatnot).

This extends to a ton of things. Let's say you want to search for a file, but the GUI indexed search isn't working properly (maybe it didn't index your file? Or maybe you need more than string contains?). If you're comfortable on the CLI and understand regex, you're set. Or maybe you need to do some bulk change across files, the CLI is going to be really efficient. It's less about total productivity but not having to do stupid repetitive tasks because that's my only option. I'd much rather write a script than do the repetitive thing even if the total time spent is equivalent.

People just aren't learning the power user stuff these days and look at me like I'm a wizard because I can use tools written 40 years ago...