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Ling’er, a 28-year-old transgender woman in China, won a record 60,000 yuan ($8,200 USD) in compensation after being subjected to involuntary electroshock conversion therapy at a hospital.

Her parents admitted her in 2022, opposing her gender identity, and she endured seven sessions over 97 days, causing lasting health issues.

The court ruled her personal rights were violated, marking the first legal victory for a trans person against such practices in China.

LGBTQ+ advocates hailed the decision, highlighting persistent challenges and legal grey areas surrounding conversion practices in the country.

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[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Ling’er’s doctor claimed in August that she might pose a risk to the safety of her parents if they killed themselves because of her gender identity, according to a report in Chinese media.

Careful doc, you might pull a muscle reaching that hard.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really - face and outward appearance to the group is ridiculously important in Asian cultures.

The point that we should all be angry with is that the parents (and there social group) viewed transgender as something so inherently bad that the shame warrants suicide.

Fuck the transphobes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Her parents are adults. If they were feeling suicidal due to their losing face then that’s their problem to address, not their child’s.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The relationship between family and social status is very, very different across many Asian countries than it is in the West generally. The same kinds of sentiments don't really apply.

Not saying that it's okay how the doctors and family treated this person, and it's great that she got some justice after, quite untypical for the region, but I would discourage people from viewing these interactions through the lens of western norms. You likely have no idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I recognize their culture is geared towards collectivism rather than the individualism of the west. I think that collectivist mentality is great in many instances but this is a clear situation where its drawbacks rear their head.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I think it's more beneficial to look at their level of progress towards accepting individuality as a journey we can learn lessons from. I don't think it's good any more than I think many of our own cultural norms are good, and definitely worse in many ways, but I just wanted to drop a reminder that people who read this and say "Why didn't [person] just do [thing]??" or other judgements are probably completely missing how any of these people feel.

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