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"Pro-life" woman seeks abortion and gets denied (lemmy.ca)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A) You hope it will. In the meantime, we continue to see cases of people being in danger or even dying.

B) Good for you that you can hand-wave away other people's lives and safety as just a temporary bump in the road.

Your callousness is disconcerting, to say the least, and I'm done with this conversation now because I can't teach you to stop looking at people as statistics.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'll come back for one last comment to make this clear:

It is never, EVER acceptable to force someone to use their body to save the life of another. Ever. CORPSES have more rights than that (you have to volunteer to be a donor before death).

You want women to have fewer rights than corpses?

And that's without even arguing whether a clump of cells that can't survive on its own is even considered a life.

You can think someone sucks for having an abortion, and we can discuss what happens when a fetus could possible be viable on its own. But bodily autonomy is non-negotiable. If someone says "disconnect me from the thing attached to my body" you fucking do it. End of story. Call them horrible, callous, a sinner, whatever you want. But you do not force people to use their body as an incubator against their will.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You obviously don't understand the concept of bodily autonomy. Parental obligation is not the same as losing bodily autonomy. A parent is not required to give up a kidney or liver for their child. Accountability for a child's behavior is not the same thing as losing bodily autonomy.

It's no different than if you agree to a blood donor and decide in the middle of donation that you want to stop. They cannot force you to continue, even if someone's life depends on it. The fetus' bodily autonomy comes in the form of not having its organs harvested, and being allowed to survive outside the woman's body if it can. There is no form of autonomy that involves another person. That is literally antithetical to the definition of autonomy

You are wrong, flat out, and I encourage you to learn more about ethics before making such patently erroneous statements