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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If we came across very mentally disabled people or extremely early babies (perhaps in a world where we could extract fetuses from the womb after just a few weeks) that could feel pain but only had cognition as complex as shrimp, it would be bad if they were burned with a hot iron, so that they cried out. It’s not just because they’d be smart later, as their hurting would still be bad if the babies were terminally ill so that they wouldn’t be smart later, or, in the case of the cognitively enfeebled who’d be permanently mentally stunted.

wat

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

rat endgame being eugenics again?? no waaay

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If we came across very mentally disabled people or extremely early babies (perhaps in a world where we could extract fetuses from the womb after just a few weeks) that could feel pain but only had cognition as complex as shrimp, it would be bad if they were burned with a hot iron, so that they cried out. It’s not just because they’d be smart later, as their hurting would still be bad if the babies were terminally ill so that they wouldn’t be smart later, or, in the case of the cognitively enfeebled who’d be permanently mentally stunted.

wat

This entire fucking shrimp paragraph is what failing philosophy does to a mf

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Did the human pet guy write this

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ohhhh, so this is a forced-birther agenda item. Got it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I think the author is just honestly trying to equivocate freezing shrimps with torturing weirdly specifically disabled babies and senile adults medieval style. If you said you'd pledge like 17$ to shrimp welfare for every terminated pregnancy I'm sure they'd be perfectly fine with it.

I happened upon a thread in the EA forums started by someone who was trying to argue EAs into taking a more forced-birth position and what it came down to was that it wouldn't be as efficient as using the same resources to advocate for animal welfare, due to some perceived human/chicken embryo exchange rate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So... we should be vegetarians?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

No, just replace all your sense of morality with utilitarian shrimp algebra. If you end up vegetarian, so be it.