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Anon questions our energy sector (slrpnk.net)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

One time? Wikipedia says over 100 serious incidents and lists about 30 of them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_and_incidents&wprov=rarw1

It's fine if you like nuclear, just don't try and claim it was one time. It poses serious risk and should be treated as such.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Look up deaths per kWHr of different energy sources and come back to me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

It has that low death rate precisely because it is heavily regulated.

The typical nuclear booster argument works on the following circular logic:

"Nuclear is perfectly safe."

"But that's not the problem with nuclear. The problem with nuclear is its too expensive."

"Nuclear is expensive because it's overly regulated!"

"But nuclear is only safe because of those heavy regulations!"

"We would have everything powered by nuclear by now if it weren't for Greenpeace."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

That's not my point and I'm already aware.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The house burning probably happened more than one time too.

wiki/List_of_oil_spills

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The alternative is not necessarily oil.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

It feels like it is otherwise we wouldn't possibly use it.

Imagine dangerous drilling, all the complex refining, the mass transpiration systems around the world moving billions of tonnes, etc. It's stupid and complex. The system to enable it was somewhat forced & def forced to maintain it, it's well documented actually.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago

Most of those didn't involve the magic rocks, and most didn't hurt anyone.

More people die creating the building materials for a powerplant (or a windmills, or a solar panel) than ever during operation. The numbers really don't matter.

I honestly don't care what we do, as long as we stop burning coal, oil and gas. The way I see it, every nuclear plant and windmill means we all die a little later.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Just put it somewhere noone lives like the Dakotas or places people who don't matter live, like west Virginia. All the coal miners getting cancer anyway, why not double tap?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Low blow on West Virginia. Cool state and nice people. Hoping to move there someday.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 49 seconds ago

Depends. Is there a McElroy brother nearby? Awesome. No? Hmm. Not as sure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The coal mining industry employs about 38,000 people. Dunkin Donuts alone employs seven times as many people as the whole coal mining industry. There just aren't that many coal miners anymore. And everyone currently involved with it joined up knowing full well the days of coal were numbered.