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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why must one of those parties be the Democrats? I don’t see no fucking Whigs around, do you?

Because unlike the Wigs, the Democrats are not divided over slavery. They can just move to the right on contemporary issues as Chris Murphy details here.

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/18581056/11578151

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The Democrats are divided over Israel. Something like 80 House members boycotted Netanyahu's speech, and the Party base is overwhelmingly anti-genocide. That's enough to get the ball rolling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's not enough. The House elections happen every two years. AIPAC can successfully primary progressive politicians if we don't vote for them.

https://apnews.com/article/squad-aipac-progressives-congress-cori-bush-0de0a96929368db72145b033261415ca

Murphy spells it out. Democrats are moving to the right to get people who aren't 100% with them on social and cultural issues. There is a huge base of people in the US that support Israel. And they tend to be consistent older voters.

https://apnews.com/article/squad-aipac-progressives-congress-cori-bush-0de0a96929368db72145b033261415ca

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/aging/articles/why-older-citizens-are-more-likely-to-vote

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Democrats moving to the right are only going to lose more and more voters, because the only reason people vote for them is because they aren't as far to the right as Republicans. It sure looks like moving to the right cost Harris the election, they're destroying their only appeal.

And those voters that they lose will be looking for a new party, because they won't let themselves be dragged to the right. So while the Democrats destroy their own party it makes perfect sense for progressives to abandon ship and reform into a new party to replace them.

This is all academic, of course. In reality we might not be able to vote ever again lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

It will definitely lose them progressive votes. And it probably won't gain them many conservative votes. But the Democrats are still going to try anyway. They looks at who voted and chase those people's votes.

Most of the country wants a new party, but our FPTP system mathematically guarantees they will never get it.

lol

=/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

Yeah, Democrats look at losing millions of voters and assume it was because they were woke. Can't wait for Democrats to start campaigning on taking my hormones away to win over conservatives!

=/

We're fucked 🙃