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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Its really unlikely mostly because we'd have to go authoritarian as fuck to get the maga traitors out before they could seriously damage us from within

The Sierra Nevada make a great natural barrier on one side, then the big ass desert to the south, so getting large amounts of anything in once we cut ourselves off would actually be harder than youd think

If we successfully negotiated with Mexico, Canada, or someone to back our asses up we might be able to manage it just off the idea that bombing us to oblivion is a really bad idea for your supply of quite a few crops & your major entertainment for the country as well as the busy ass ports on our shores, and that's before you consider how much the rest of the world would find such a move incredibly distasteful from a "holy shit what did you just do" aspect

All in all if ANY state can successfully pull it off, it's California, but it's not going to happen

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I live in a rural part of a deep blue Northeast state and have been thinking about this a lot. Most of my surrounding area is predictably liberal college towns but the town next door to me is very MAGA and I have to drive through it to get to the highway. Honestly, I want to know what it takes to get those people to leave so that we can secure and expand a safe haven here...