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Rafael Grossi, head of the IAEA, called Germany's decision to fully phase out nuclear power "illogical," noting it is the only country to have done so.

Despite the completed phase-out in 2023, there is renewed debate in Germany about reviving nuclear energy due to its low greenhouse gas emissions.

Speaking at COP29, Grossi described reconsidering nuclear as a "rational" choice, especially given global interest in nuclear for emissions reduction.

Germany’s phase-out, driven by environmental concerns and past nuclear disasters, has been criticized for increasing reliance on Russian gas and missing carbon reduction opportunities.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (11 children)

It was a stupid idea no matter who conceived of or implemented it. Nuclear is the only viable clean baseload power generation option we have. Solar and wind can't do it, coal and oil are filthy, battery storage is nowhere near where it needs to be yet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Baseload is an antiquated concept that doesn't work with lots of renewables. Battery storage may be not completely feasible yet, but look at California to see that it has the potential to be ready faster than we can build new npps.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Baseload is an antiquated concept that doesn’t work with lots of renewables. Battery storage may be not completely feasible yet, but look at California to see that it has the potential to be ready faster than we can build new npps.

"Baseload" is still needed. Renewables are great but they are simply not there yet. There is a world between "potential" and "available".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, right now. But not in 10 years when the first npps could be ready. And you would also need storage for npps when there is a lot of wind or sun, cause you can't shut down the npps all the time or thermal stresses will cause damages to the pipes. And renewables are here now, it's the storage that needs to catch up.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Baseload is still needed now. End of.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can't magically get npps now. End of.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Which is why it was stupid to start shutting them down! 🤣

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Do you know how old they were? We would have to shut them down anyway because they started reaching end of life. There was no new project for decades already. It's a complicated political situation and it's fucking arrogant for you to come in, scream about "nUcLeAr Is BesT" without knowing the details. Even the energy companies didn't want to keep the plants running at the end. So please let us try to do our Energiewende, we progressives in Germany have enough trouble with our stupid conservatives

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That doesn't really matter if we are discussing how to move forward from where we are, does it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

We?

It was a stupid idea no matter who conceived of or implemented it.

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