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How can jaguars consume ayahuasca if it is a beverage containing various ingredients that work together to be potent? What do they actually consume?
Do they consume Psychotria viridis leaves and does the DMT work this way?
Just a guess, but carnivores usually have extra potent stomach acids. Maybe there is a different chemical reaction that activates the 'DMT' effect in a different but similar way?
Apparently the jaguars don't eat the DMT containing shrub P. viridis, but this other ingredient in ayahuasca called yage (Banisteriopsis caapi) that does not contain DMT (see the other response to my last comment).
So, no psychoactive substance, right??
Maybe the jaguars are not actually tripping but are just using it for their metabolism?
MAOIs are also used as antidepressants in humans because they inhibit the metabolism of monoamine compounds such as serotonin and norepinephrine.. Maybe the jaguars are going for this?
https://www.vice.com/en/article/here-is-a-jaguar-tripping-on-yage-the-ayahuasca-vine/
Thanks. That was a bit too anecdotal for me so I actually searched around a bit more. Didn't find much but at least this one review article:
https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/pdf/10.1055/a-1586-1665.pdf
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Although the presented evidence is again this same short, very heavily edited video of a jaguar supposedly tripping on the yage vine.
And regarding the effect on or the reasons of the jaguar, we apparently don't know and how could we, if all the evidence is this one short clip already suggesting what it is doing? Not very satisfying I must say.
ETA: OK, so I dug a bit deeper as seen in my other comment. Apparently this vine isn't even really psychoactive: "The harmala alkaloids are not especially psychedelic, even at higher dosages, when hypnagogic visions, alongside vomiting and diarrhea, become the main effect." So, what are the jaguars tripping on then? Maybe they aren't! Maybe they use it for its purgative effects? This seems all extremely sketchy to me. I don't think we can definitely say that jaguars are using these vines for their psychoactive effects and saying that they are tripping on ayahuasca is definitely wrong.