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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD?locations=RU-JP

I'm talking PPP, not dollars since that doesn't make sense for a sanctioned country that doesn't have legal dollar exchange mechanisms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh wow, you found a metric where russia better, besides alcoholism!

By PPP metric India is better off than Germany, France and UK combined.

When you're sanctioned to shit, you probably don't have a lot of alternatives of what you can and cannot buy...

You're comparing "Local Market" data, when talking about puchasing ads from X and Facebook...

Congrats, you've earned youself a tag.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you don't think 1 billion people have more economic output than the 150 million or so that live in Germany, France and the UK? That's pretty fucking racist.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, so NOW we're taking into account population?

So, by your own link, russia has not surpassed Japan, no.

Either way, "economic output" is what I give zero shits about. It's quality of life what matters. Everything else is statistical wank for finance bros.

Not sure why you brought up incorrect comparisons of russia's economy to a conversation about their fiscal responsibility, which has been proven to be idiotic (as it often is in autocratic oligarchies)

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm just responding to a comment about them being able to afford it. They clearly have money on hand, which makes per capita GDP metrics a non sequitur given the oligarchic nature of Russia. Since it's a war economy with a huge degree of state centralization, looking at total economic power makes a lot more sense, to me at least.

Why are we talking about quality of life suddenly? At no point did I say Russia was better than Japan-- i said they have plenty of capital and a relatively cheap labor pool.

I'm conceding that Russia can, in fact, waste money on Lemmy trolls. I still don't think it's at all likely and would be very happy to see some mod logs that prove me wrong.

Do you think there are Russian trolls on every discord server and IRC chat room too? It must be exhausting to live like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay, you use the "metric" that makes most sense to you. Best, keep those metrics and comparisons to yourself.

It must be exhausting to live like that.

Why? I don't give two shits about them. They're a waste of blood and organs, I tag them and move on with my life. Just like christo-fashist muricans.

It must be exhausting being a simp for russia though. Trying to squeeze out every "positive" graph and putting so much effort into trying to prove that 'russia stronk bliat' should be exhausting.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol. Didn't realize the world bank was a Russian asset. My bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not blaming the graphs you dunce. Read again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why are you insulting me for disagreeing with you?

Why is it that everyone who disagrees with you is a foreign agent?

How am I being pro Russia? I called them oligarchic AND pointed out that any strength implied by that graph is due from war expenditures and not some underlying strength.

if PPP wasn't a useful indicator of purchasing power, it probably wouldn't be called purchasing power parity and be published by the World Bank.

My only claim here is that it would be silly to waste time on Lemmy when there are bigger and easier fish to fry. I'm not even denying Russian propagandists exist and called Tim Pool a shill.

I am incredibly amused that this somehow adds up to being a Russian troll rather than someone who can hear and acknowledge opinions that are different than my own.

Good luck with the whole fascism thing. I'm sure your echo chamber will win the election next time!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why are you insulting me for disagreeing with you?

I'm insulting you because you're arguing in bad faith on purpose

Why is it that everyone who disagrees with you is a foreign agent?

Is this "everyone" in the room with you right now? Nowhere in our exhange did I call you an agent or a troll. I did call you a simp though.

How am I being pro Russia? I called them oligarchic AND pointed out that any strength implied by that graph is due from war expenditures and not some underlying strength.

if PPP wasn't a useful indicator of purchasing power, it probably wouldn't be called purchasing power parity and be published by the World Bank.

That's not how statistics and data work at all.

My only claim here is that it would be silly to waste time on Lemmy when there are bigger and easier fish to fry. I'm not even denying Russian propagandists exist and called Tim Pool a shill.

Because russia is known to be a mastermind expanding galaxy brain. No silly decisions there.

I am incredibly amused that this somehow adds up to being a Russian troll rather than someone who can hear and acknowledge opinions that are different than my own.

Your weird fantasy again

Good luck with the whole fascism thing. I'm sure your echo chamber will win the election next time!

No u

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Purchasing power parity isn't used to measure purchasing power?

Fuck. I might have to discard my multiple advanced degrees in mathematics.

I'm not arguing in bad faith. I'm sharing my opinion, backed by my own research experience in Cybersecurity and AI that this seems incredibly unlikely and kindly provided a source for the numbers I cited while you continuously insult me.

Occam's razor would suggest that everyone who disagrees with you on the internet isn't a simp for Russia and that a diversity of opinions is natural.

I've not said anything positive about Russia at all-- just that their PPP is higher than Japan's, which isn't an opinion at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

At this point you're having an imaginary conversation with your imaginary people. You're trying to put words in my mouth and you're failing miserably.

...my multiple advanced degrees in mathematics...
...cybersecurity and AI...
LMAO. Truly LMAO.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Teach me how to have this level of patience

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

work in academia. The peer reviews are far more brutal than existing on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

work in academia.

Makes sense