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4000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Kurds and Syrians.
Yup but the average American really doesn't care about that.
I dunno about that. A million people marched against the Iraq war and it was the defining issue for democrats until Obama doubled down on extralegal drone strikes and small scale troop deployments across Africa and the Gulf.
She literally lost the election over Gaza. 30+% of Pennsylvania and Arizona voters said they would be likely to vote Dem if the ceasefire happened (source linked elsehwere in this thread) and Michigan has 240k Muslims and Biden won it by like 20k votes in 2020. This could have gone very differently if she had listened to the base instead of appealing to some hypothetical "average" american.
Oh no, I didn't mean it that way. If they thought about it then they would care. But most Americans are years past thinking about the Iraq wars, until you mention Cheney. Then it's all memories of service member memorials on prime time news. If they sat down and thought about it more I'm sure they'd get to thinking about the Iraqis again, it's just normal human stuff to think about the stuff closer to you first.
Oh. yeah. It's impossible to keep up with US sponsored atrocities or internalize them as personal failures.
Anyone who was alive in 2003 had good reason to be disgusted by the Liz Cheney endorsement though.
Cheney is one of those names that will always leave a bitter taste to me.
Shit apple, shit tree
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