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Question. Would Harris have done better if she had a more tough stance on Isreal? Like what votes would she have lost if she committed to ending the genicide? The Arab and Muslim coalitions at the DNC told them that the Muslim and Arab vote was at risk if the Biden administration didn't change course and that Harris would lose their support if she didn't come out with a concrete plan to end the genicide...
In my opinion it was a huge mistake to back Isreal in this election. It's not like zionest or evangelical Christians were going to vote blue anyways. Why turn your back on millions of voters in swing states for genicide. Total head scratcher of a decision. Biden nor Harris said they'd work towards a two state solution or allow the UN to enforce and demiliterize both sides. The most support I heard from either was the day before the election. Harris said she'd seek a ceasefire but that was it.
Voting is inherently transactional. The Arab and Muslim Americans told the party what they needed to do to secure their support and the party said no.
I (hate and) understand that the reason is geopolitics and CENTCOM military power projection in the region, but it’s still bad politics to not commit to a pretense of trying.
Especially as NATO allies and economic partners are breaking from the US position on Palestine - and now the Saudis are talking no normalization with Israel without Palestinian statehood.
It's becoming more obvious as the data is on who didn't vote that the far left of the party gave up on the party. The campaign didn't push any left ideals and 10 million of their critical voters said theyve had enough with having two right wing parties. Trump only gained about 500k voters that left the dems for him. I'm guessing those are the racist and misogynist that the DNC is trying to pin the blame on. Keep running right politics and this will be the results going forward.
Well done left wingers, your moral purity has pushed America right again.
Literally unrepresented my whole life and I can control the direction of the nation? Cope harder.
Democrats wouldnt be relevant if the people weren't held hostage by First-past-the-post voting. That's what they fear most. Not a trump dictatorship.
Your leftist plausibility card got revoked for trivialising the fascist takeover of the most powerful country in the world.
Not talking purity.
Voting is inherently transactional.
When 20 million registered voters sit out elections is a problem with the system.
Well, either those voters prefer Trump or their actions are unaligned with their goals
I think it was gun waving, supporting a genocide for a far right foreign war criminal, far right immigratkon policy, and ignoring the working class that pushed the country right, but what do I know.
OK.
Essentially, you're saying that the genocide is settled and that american elections are exclusively performative (at the very least when it comes to international policy). You must then agree with me that the US is not a democracy, and that the US as we know it is a force for evil in the world?
Lol and where was it trump said he'd withhold weapons from Israel again? These voters are clearly choads.
They would've lost the LGBTQ vote if they made a hard course correction against the only LGBTQ friendly country in the middle and condemned all those queer people to die.
A rock and a hard place.
What LGBTQ community have you been talking to? I find that hard to believe
I lurk the subreddit from time to time. Keeps me from thinking queer people are batshit insane when it's just Lemmy that's batshit.