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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t buy this. In Nebraska there was an election between an independent union leader and a career politician. The union leader lost.

The consensus seems to be that people that voted democrat in 2020 voted republican this time because they experienced inflation under Biden that think it was his fault.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

People don't vote for numbers they vote for stories. They vote for their feelings. Do they feel like they're in a better place today and they were the four years ago. Do they feel like they're better off financially. Do they feel like the economy is stronger. And the answer for most of us is no of course not. So regardless of the reasons for that they're going to vote that way. That's just a harsh reality of elections and economics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Four years ago you couldn’t buy toilet paper. Are some people worse off than under Trump 1.0? Of course. Is more than half the country worse off? Fuck no. People have goldfish memories and Dems did a terrible job touting their wins that did make Americans better off under Biden.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 36 minutes ago

Just as an aside I never actually had problems buying toilet paper. I don't actually know anyone who did. I know that's not really pertinent I just always find it funny people say that.

That's exactly what I'm saying though. It's about the stories we tell ourselves and the stories the parties are able to sell to us. Reality doesn't matter the stories that we buy matter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I agree. Which is why I don’t believe the narrative that Harris lost because she didn’t go far enough left. Even though I wish our politicians would. I think too many voters don’t feel the same way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They were unwilling to go hard attack on the people setting prices.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Biden was calling out price gouging throughout his presidency.

Harris said she would make billionaires pay their fair share and they literally bought votes for Trump.

Scapegoating democrats for going up against the billionaire class seems like exactly what the billionaires would want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know if it's that she didn't go far enough left in so much as she didn't go and far enough left on certain issues. As odd as it might seem there is a populist movement in the Republican Party. They do appeal to the working class for some odd reason. Their policy decisions don't always reflect it but their rhetoric oftentimes does. After all a number of Republican states passed fairly economically Progressive ballot measures.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It seems to me that she had a hard fight to win by saying she would tax billionaire their fair share. I’m sure they were all working together to pull strings against her.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Frankly I didn't see nearly as much of that as I expected. I don't think she was pushing all that hard to be honest with you. However I was speaking more to labor issues. To healthcare. She was certainly to the right of Joe Biden on all three of those issues I'd say. Lord knows she was far to the right on him when it comes to Consumer Protections issues. Her cow-towing to her billionaire donors and preparing to push Lena Khan out show that pretty strongly I think. Most voters heard her and smelled a rat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

She laid out a plan to handle price gouging and tax billionaires. She didnt seem left or right of Biden.