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Because you now did it to yourself.

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[–] [email protected] 220 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (135 children)

Well the entire multiplatform astroturfing campaign from people who call themselves leftists worked! Democrats stayed home instead of voting.

Now Palestine will be completely flattened with 0 resistance at all, and redoubled support and bombs for Israel! Way to go! You really showed your support for Palestine by helping this happen!

They will probably come back saying "it wasn't our fault, we just pointed out the truth" while they shouted that a vote for Harris was a vote for genocide [so don't vote for harris] from every platform that they used.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

So fucking predictable.

Remember when Biden stepped down? Do you remember how unpopular he was and the massive wave of hope and support for Kamala that showed itself? Well, what the fuck did you think was gonna happen when Kamala glued herself to Biden, and tried to appeal to center right voters? They refuse to make compromises with the left, try to appeal to the center-right, and then blame the left for not voting for them; classic center/lib playbook, the same thing happens in Portugal, same thing happened in 2016 USA elections.

I thought that Democrats would win DESPITE the absolute dog shit campaign, given everything about Trump, but it was still an absolute dog shit campaign by people who claimed this was the most important election of people's lives, but then dug their hills in ideologically and refused to compromise with people on their left.

If the situation wasn't so dire, it would be hilarious to see the double think by Dem voters in this thread:

  • "How can Rep voters not hold Trump accountable despite everything he's done!"

  • "It's not the Dems fault that they lost, despite trying to appeal to the center-right instead of the left; it's never their fault! It's the leftists fault for not voting Dem! Kamala did nothing wrong!"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Well, what the fuck did you think was gonna happen when Kamala glued herself to Biden, and tried to appeal to center right voters? They refuse to make compromises with the left, try to appeal to the center-right, and then blame the left for not voting for them; classic center/lib playbook, the same thing happens in Portugal, same thing happened in 2016 USA elections.

The thing is, I strongly agree with you AND the person you replied to because although I've been agape at watching Kamala sprint away from the left from essentially the moment her candidacy was announced, and I think Democrat leadership is FAR too in the pocket of corporate interests, and far too welcoming of Republicans, she's still so very obviously a better choice than Trump that I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this. I'd have thought that women alone would have pushed Kamala over the top due to the whole Roe v. Wade thing.

In summary - all my grumpiness at the DNC and Kamala for ignoring the left again was still miles short of what would have propelled me to vote for Trump or enable a Trump win.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Same, the difference is i knew that distinction wouldnt bring people out. If you, I'm assuming, a committed voter were reluctant about voting for harris despite everything. What does that mean for people who are fairly indifferent to voting? 😞😭😞😭😞😭

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This shit exactly. They literally gave us nothing to vote for. All they really had was abortion, but that's fuckin it? No other decent policy. And now I wonder if they see this outcome do they think they weren't right wing enough? Stupid.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Harris and Biden put billions of dollars into a renewable energy fund, and Harris was promising a 20 grand subsidy for first home buyers. It's not nothing. Y'all just chose not to listen.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (8 children)

Ask yourself what do you think is going to happen next election? Answer: The Dems are going to go hard center. If the left doesn't show up after Biden did green energy, IRA, student debt relief, non-compete clauses being banned via FTC, etc, AND to prevent a literal Hitler quoting fascist getting in, then the left either will literally never show up, or doesn't exist. The left is done. No one is going to run a left platform for fucking decades. Because the left never shows up, or doesn't exist.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Most of the leftists I know voted for Kamala.

And I love how Democrats' first move after losing is to blame said leftists. We were the only ones calling out the bad moves of Kamala's campaign from the beginning and warning what might happen if she didn't adopt a Walz ticket (or mostly a Walz ticket).

Democrats did this to themselves. It's the reason why they kept supporting a corpse of a candidate with Joe Biden for so long until the first presidential debate, and it's also the reason why Hillary was picked over Bernie in 2016 at the DNC.

Leftists weren't the issue. Democrats' own willingness to ignore what was happening right in front of them was the issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

The ones over 35 maybe. Young folks believed disinfo. Nobody taught them how to vet information.

Either way, 5 million people is not one vector. People made their choice. It's time to accept that this isn't some gaming of the system or fluke. I know decent people that went from Biden to Trump. I disagree with their logic, but I hear where they're coming from.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

No, half of the piece of shit racist dumbass pieces of shit Americans did this. They hate black people, and they hate women.

Fuck Putin, by the way.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

You'll probably be permabanned from the instance for saying this but obvious pro trump trolls will get a comment deleted once a day so it all balances out /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well the entire multiplatform astroturfing campaign from people who call themselves leftists worked! Democrats stayed home instead of voting.

Yup. I spent the last month or so tagging them, and I have not seen a single one today.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

Nah Trump won the popular vote too. This has nothing to do with voters staying at home. Trump won on the economy. I went to the gas station before voting yesterday and a redbull was $4 and a small bag of chips $3. I knew at that point there is a good chance that Trump would win.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah price gouging by companies because of what they got away with during a shitty handling of covid under trump is a great reason to bring him back.

He is back because Americans are stupid and gullible. It really is that simple.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah, people are fucking stupid. Inflation started under Trump.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

it really is that simple. inflation is a global problem and many Americans are so stupid that they think he can and will do anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I went to the gas station before voting yesterday and a redbull was $4 and a small bag of chips $3. I knew at that point there is a good chance that Trump would win.

I don't understand any logic that suggests Trump would improve this situation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Like many things, trumpers are happy to believe it whether the logic is there or not.

I’ve seen real people I know personally, people with degrees and with jobs that affect people’s lives, honestly look forward to the lower gas prices and inflation if he were to get elected.

In think there’s just a lot of ignorance, and people not paying attention to real events and falling back to thinking that voting Republican means you support hard work and white people and saving money, while voting Democrat means you support tax & spend and love lazy minorities.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but don't tell them that or they'll get upset

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