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Dragon Age: The Veilguard’s Clumsy, Preachy Political Messaging Does More Harm Than Good (www.forbes.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Not sure how particulary I think about it.

I kinda agree though because, honestly, I genuinely like prodding at RL-issues in my video games, but if the best the writers can do is some MCU-level shit that I would expect in Forspoken or Fortnite, then I really wish they'd not. It just feels like making fun of transgender people with how terrible the scene's dialogue is (there's a video in the article).

Plus, as the update says, they couldn't even be arsed to search through the previous games for whether this was already talked about.

Sigh.

Still, the game is far better than I expected it to be, so this isn't just a rant, but I wish the dialogue in particular had decent writing behind it, it breaks immersion near-constantly even if the general scene and story were done well.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Aqun-athlok" means one who was born one gender and is now living as another. So yeah that means trans. But there's also a conversation in the trans community about if Non-Binary is technically trans. I would argue it is but some disagree and others say that while Non-binary is trans it is not a "normal" type of trans. That Non-Binary is not either gender. Sometimes Non-Binary is literally no gender. Non-Binary is it's own umbrella term. So it's not necessarily living as "another" gender, it can be living in between genders, without gender, or as both genders.

So i would say that "Aqun-athlok" is probably more applicable as binary trans as it was used to refer to krem who was a trans man. Now they could have just thought up a new word for Non-binary trans but Non-Binary is just kinda the perfect word for it. I'm Non-Binary and I actually think saying this is immersion breaking is just kinda bs. Plenty of words in our world also exist in Dragon Age. Not everything has to have a different word. For instance, Dwarves are a thing in our world. Sure they're not the same, it's a medical term, but they still exist. But the Dwarves in Dragon Age are still called Dwarves. Why are they not a different name? It's a fantasy world, shouldn't they have made up a new word instead of using a word from our world to describe these people? No, because Dwarves is just the word that fits best. Non-Binary here is the same.

Now whether or not it is written well is a better approach to this discussion but also, every trans person has experienced the exact thing that this writer describes, except it's not always pushups. I've had people feel incredibly guilty over misgendering me and done some stupid stuff. When I hear this being described I don't think it's awkwardly written, I think it's an accurate representation of what it can be like being trans and how some people will just be like that when they misgender you.

I also think calling it "preachy" is 100% playing into the narrative it's Woke because people don't call CoD preachy even though it's filled with pro military propaganda. Why is this preachy just because it accurately shows an experience that trans people have all experienced in our own lives?

I haven't gotten to this place yet in the game and I might end up finding it awkward, but I more likely expect to actually relate to Taash more because of it.

Anyway, just my thoughts from a trans dragon age fan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

interesting points, especially about the evolution in language / perceptions re: dwarves. I've heard dragon age being described as 'fantasy, but more mature'; I played the first game and it didn't click.