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Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

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[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do you mean when you say "my vote in no way endangers the country to Trump"?

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly what i said. Trumpet isnt even a blip of a possibility in my state. We're talking 0.000001%. its pretty nice here we do good work.

Harris is the greater evil in my voting scenario. Its going to be very unfortunate if she loses this week to trump because the rank and file couldn't be bothered to pressure her over something as little as not genociding but ug here we are.

I mean she has larger issues as a candidate but explaining those is 1000x harder than 'genocide bad mmmmkay?' and even that message is struggling to get through because trumpet has managed to make everyone absolutely insane.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with a lot of what you just said there.

Just not your conclusion.

Does your vote not count in the national "popular vote" for some reason? With a race this ... Whatever this is, don't you think you'd want to give every possible advantage to the person that CAN defeat Trump? Especially somewhere that she is likely to win, aren't you concerned many like-minded people will make the same mistake you are/did?

That's kinda the playbook here. Each of you individually thinks "Harris will win this in my riding, so I'm allowed to be special and vote for a third party so I can feel good about myself!"

It's literally why everyone is asking Jill to fuck off. She won't leach any Trump supporters from him. But she will leach people like you from Harris.

It's just selfish.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

funny thing is you don't have to agree with my conclusion since its a fact. national results dont matter in a state by state result, and harris is on lock here.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I realized i didnt respond to your 'if everyone thinks as you do' proposition.

Firstly most wont. We know this. Repeatedly elections show this. You have a few percentage points of people willing to make the call. Secondly, im in 25+ spread state. You'd need a candidate so unconscionably bad that 30% of the population would be willing to switch and even then it'd just be a 3 way horse race between the candidates.

And trust me if that was the case the chatter would be far more dramatic.

So no this is not a feel good vote. This is a vote to pump the numbers in my state away from harris so i can pressure my local reps on things like gaza.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago