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Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can’t say exactly, it was just floated around, I’m guessing it was for that specific reason, but that was around the time I was thinking of leaving for other reasons, they are VERY unorganized as a party and it really, really bothered me. The way smaller Transhumanist Party seems more organized than the Green Party.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Probably because running a presidential candidate is a waste of money unless your intent is to split the vote.

Start local, gain influence, work your way up.

Edit - to those downvoting, the Green Party literally has zero representation, even at the State level. And you want to jump straight to POTUS. Riiight.

Get one state senate seat. Get one House of Representatives seat. Get some kind of representation. Then you have a bargaining chip.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The threat of splitting the vote is a good reason to run, if you feel like your position isn't being taken seriously enough AND that it's important enough that everything else is worth losing.

The problem is that the majority of the Democrats are on board with green initiatives. The only holdup on the $10T program before was Manchin. She has now pivoted RCV, or more specifically destroying the duopoly because they are the enemy for "reasons".

Also, she's said that she wouldn't pull out even if the Dems gave her what she wanted. So it doesn't really work as a threat either.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Eh, threatening to split the vote might in theory get some campaign promises, but such promises are likely to evaporate when things get down to it.

Meanwhile if you actually hold a persistent presence in the house or senate, particularly when it's close, you got ongoing leverage. Hell, folks like AOC, MTG, Boebert have an absurd amount of national influence for being elected by merely a singular district.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

IDK if I really want to know but I can imagine a mid-to-far-left party like the greens would have a lot of disparity in the views of members.