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Title says most of it. Spin electric scooters exited the Seattle market and abandoned their scooters all over the city and apparently they have a pi 4 in them!

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's not abandoned property unless the finder doesn't know who it belongs to.

If the name of the company is on the scooter, it is mislaid property, not abandoned property.

The classic bar exam question on this involves the finder of a bag of money. In one hypothetical, it's a plain canvas bag. In another, it has the name of a bank on the bag.

When the name is there, you have to give it back. The finder only gets to keep it if after legal notice and a waiting period, the owner fails to reclaim it. In most states there is a statute on this, and most of them require turning the property over to police temporarily.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d be willing to risk it all for the pi.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

honestly, I would too. even though supplies are starting to bounce back (mainly in the USA, and I'm not in the USA), a free Pi is a free Pi. I generally can find uses for more pi's.....

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

When the fine for littering and the cost of repair or recycling is higher than what you can recoup from this sort of lost property, it's a win win for the police.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if the "bag of money" didn't have any money in it at all, and the cost of recovering and properly disposing of the "bag of money" cost the legal owners more than what the bag and it's contents are worth?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, sure, it comes down to knowledge of the facts. If the owner manifests an intention not to recover it, then it is abandoned. But if you just find the scooter, or even if the company has said it's going out of business, that's not the same as having knowledge that the owner has no intent to retrieve the property.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: all of that is irrelevant if the legal owners don't care enough to sue you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I mean everything is legal unless someone enforces the contrary.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

and most of them require turning the property over to police temporarily.

This is probably paranoid, but I always assumed that a cop would get his cousin to come in and claim it, or that the station would just keep it and then be like "oh yeah... yeah the owner claimed that 2 days before the expiration period".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Official protocols aside; this is exactly what would happen lmao

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, I don't know firsthand but I'd bet it's pretty common.