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“To those people who are saying, ‘Well, I can’t support Harris because she disagrees [with] Trump on that issue’ … he will be closer to Netanyahu,” Sanders said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Sanders said he thinks Vice President Harris can be moved “on that issue” of the Israel-Hamas war.

Harris has called for a cease-fire deal and pushed for the war in Gaza to end, but she faces scrutiny from both sides — from people who want to see Hamas defeated and those who call for the end of the war in Gaza.

“So, if we are able to elect Harris, I think we’re going to have an opportunity to move her on that issue, to make it clear, we cannot allow children in Gaza to starve to death,” Sanders said. “She will be open to that. I doubt that Trump will.”

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It is a very slim chance but there is hope that the Kamala administration will at least give israel fewer bombs or demand they be used for things that benefit US interests (like attacking iran) rather than cheering on the genocide.

If there's only a very slim hope, then might as well let the Democrats lose so they at least have to posture.

In the past, when there were chances to evacuate them as refugees, the majority of neighboring countries actively refused (ironically citing fears of Hamas led insurrections).

Middle Eastern countries notoriously don't represent their people, being dictatorships and all that.

But when it is a way to bleed resources out of israel they suddenly are all humanitarians.

Who are "they"?

It is hard to believe that suddenly, after everyone discovered Palestine existed on October 8th, that is truly the greatest issue facing the planet (especially when other active genocides are still ignored).

Many people only learned how bad things are in Palestine because of Israel's genocide in Gaza. What's so strange about that? Also the West is not actively intervening in those other genocides, which might not be palatable to some people but it's much better than actively bankrolling one. Again, what's the problem with not wanting to bankroll a genocide and increase the chance of being caught in another war in the Middle East? Also, have you not considered that many people (a quarter of either all Americans or Democrats, not sure which but you can find the numbers online) opposed Israel's Apartheid regime but couldn't speak out for fear of being labeled antisemites? Also why are you conveniently ignoring the existence of Arab and Muslim Americans who are personally invested in seeing Israel's genocide stop?

I don't think you know what the word "gaslight(ing)" means

"No you don't care about Palestine tankie/useful idiot/right wing bot/whatever" is, in fact, gaslighting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All those words and not a damn message anywhere.

Real shame.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It's insane these people lack any sense of objectivity. They pretend they want a better situation for Palestinians and they go about the absolute worst and completely ineffective option. So ineffective, they are rushing to elect the person who will make it worse.