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[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (6 children)

Maybe a bit more parenting could have helped. And not having a fricking gun in your house your kid can reach.

On and regulations on LLMs please.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The fact that stupid low effort comments like this are upvoted indicates that Lemmy is exactly the same as Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Platforms change, people don't. Shocking, no?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago

Maybe a bit more parenting could have helped.

Yes, maybe that would have made you a better person.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

He ostensibly killed himself to be with Daenerys Targaryen in death. This is sad on so many levels, but yeah... parenting. Character .AI may have only gone 17+ in July, but Game of Thrones was always TV-MA.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago

Issue I see with character.ai is that it seem to be unmoderated. Everyone with a paid subscription can submit their trained character. Why the Frick do sexual undertones or overtones come even up in non-age restricted models?

They, the provider of that site, deserve the full front of this lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Seriously. If the risk is this service mocks a human so convincingly that lies are believed and internalized, then it still leaves us in a position of a child talking to an "adult" without their parents knowing.

There were lots of folks to chat with in the late 90s online. I feel fortunate my folks watched me like a hawk. I remember getting in trouble several times for inappropriate conversations or being in chatrooms that were inappropriate. I lost access for weeks at a time. Not to the chat, to the machine.

This is not victim blaming. This was a child. This is victim's parents blaming. They are dumb as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

At some point you take your kid camping for a few weeks or put him in a rehab camp where he has no access to electronics

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe a bit more parenting could have helped.

No.

If someone is depressed enough to kill themselves, no amount of “more parenting” could’ve stopped that.

Shame on you for trying to shame the parents.

And not having a fricking gun in your house your kid can reach.

Maybe. Maybe not. I won’t argue about the merits of securing weapons in a house with kids. That’s a no-brainer. But there is always more than one way to skin the proverbial cat.

On and regulations on LLMs please.

Pandora’s Box has been opened. There’s no putting it back now. No amount of regulation will fix any of this.

Maybe a Time Machine.

Maybe…


I do believe that we need to talk more about suicide, normalize therapy, free healthcare (I’ll settle for free mental healthcare), funding for more licensed social workers in schools, train parents and teachers on how to recognize these types of situations, etc.

As parents we do need to be talking more with our kids. Even just casual check ins to see how they’re doing. Parents should also talk to their kids about how they are feeling too. It’ll help the kids understand that everybody feels stress, anxiety, and sadness (to name a few emotions).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

They failed to be knowledgeable of their child's activity AND failed to secure their firearms.

One can acknowledge the challenge of the former, in 2024. But one cannot excuse the latter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes parenting could have helped to distinguish between talking to a real person and a unmoving cold machine.

And sure regulations now would not change what happend, duh. And regulations need to happen, companies like OpenAI and Microsoft and Meta are running amok, their LLMS as unrestricted they are now are doing way too much damage to society as they are helping.

This needs to stop!

Also I feel no shame, shaming parents who don't, or rather inadequate, do their one job. This was a presentable death.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yes parenting could have helped to distinguish between talking to a real person and a unmoving cold machine.

Hi, I'm a psychologist. I am not aware of peer-researched papers which reach the conclusion that, for all disorders that involve an unsatisfactory appraisal of reality, parenting is a completely effective solution. Please find sources.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

This falls into the field of Media Literacy.