this post was submitted on 22 Oct 2024
15 points (65.3% liked)

Games

32230 readers
725 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Weekly Threads:

What Are You Playing?

The Weekly Discussion Topic

Rules:

  1. Submissions have to be related to games

  2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

  3. No excessive self-promotion

  4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

  5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

  6. No linking to piracy

More information about the community rules can be found here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Honestly the Switch 2 is the only future console I have any excitement for.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly the Switch 2 is the only future console I have any excitement for.

Steam Deck or literally any other portable PC over whatever the hell Nintendo regurgitates next.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They're keeping the layout and "adding more storage", even though you can easily buy a 1TB SD card for your current Switch. So, in all honesty, it's just a Switch with a bigger screen. At least on a Steam Deck you can play an order of magnitude more games on it, with -much- better variety.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

And the games actually go on sale

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And you're not supporting a godawful abusive company such as Nintendo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

The only thing I still buy from Nintendo is hanafuda. They got some pretty good quality, playable stuff. I guess their shogi equipment isn’t bad either.

Video games though? Nope, not anymore.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

And it'll play nearly every video game made since the invention of video games, which is a huge win.

Want to play Diablo? Sure, no problem. Destiny 2? Yep, that's fine. Italian Plumber and Friends Kart Racing? Why yes, that works great.

And yeah, don't have to support a company that hates you only slightly more than it hates people playing their older games.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Teach me how to get d2 running on steamdeck

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Fair, I brainfarted on that one.

I have an Ally, which is running Windows, which does run Destiny 2 and Fortnite and League and whatever else the steamdeck doesn't because of rootkit anticheat.

So I'll restate: you can run almost anything that doesn't need malware to allow you to connect to their servers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ahh damn I got my hopes up I thought there was a legit workaround without windows

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

D2 and Fortnite are keeping me on windows instead of something like Bazzite, so I'm right there with you.

The annoying thing is that battleeye does exist for Linux, but the devs would have to implement it and they're just.... not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

You install Windows on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Several things in your list come with an asterisk, to be fair.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

And I can refund the game if I don't like it. And I can see reviews of the game by those who have been vetted as having bought it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not remotely comparable, but sure, if you are like many here already a hobbyist PC gamer, you probably rather want a Steam Deck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Handheld game systems of a similar size that play mostly the same games seem pretty comparable to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

“Mostly the same games” except for all the Nintendo IP. Most folks aren’t pirating games I’d imagine so they’re aren’t really the same libraries for the vast majority of consumers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The vast majority of Switch games are not made by Nintendo, and the vast majority of those are available on PC and Steam Deck, and typically better versions of those games at that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, sorry, you're not going to try have a neutral perspective about this, are you?

But humor me, why are so many Switch still being sold if other stuff is so superior? After all, like you said, they're quite comparable and hey, Deck seems strictly superior. Right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I mean, I just said they were comparable. To say that they're not remotely comparable is laughable. But here are a quick few reasons: one of them is in Walmart and the other is not; one appeals to children (not the least of which is the presence of a brand "moat" in Pokemon) in a way that most other electronics do not, which also translates to multiple children in a family each having their own, which drives up sales numbers; one of them already had an international distribution chain to handle territories like Australia rather than having to build one up; one came out 5 years earlier than the other, including existing in a time period where handheld gaming PCs were typically not driving comparable 3D graphics, but that changed a mere few years later with advancements from AMD in the x64 space.

This is a paradigm shift that has occurred since the Switch's launch. Here's an interesting thought: do you think there will still be the "port everything to the Switch" crowd for the next Switch when the game already has a PC version ready to go on the Steam Deck? Because I'll bet they just buy that device, or a competing handheld PC, instead without having to hope that the game they want to play gets a Switch version, and that's exactly the weakness of the console model in the modern era.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Uh, yes of course? The customers for a console and a handheld PC aren't the same so naturally the former wants a game posted to the console?

🤷‍♀️