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A vote for Jill Stein, Cornel West, Oliver Chase, or not voting, is a vote for Trump. Palestinian lives don't matter to Trump, nor do they really matter to Harris; however in general, Harris will be better for Americans than Trump, so vote for Harris.

A vote for Jill Stein, Cornel West, Oliver Chase, or not voting, is a vote for Trump.

Just as a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush.

Imagine if Nader didn't run. Imagine there was no Green Party candidate for US President.

Gore would have probably won, and America would have been the better for it. Probably no Iraq war, maybe not even a 911. As a result Iran probably wouldn't be as strong, and Putin probably would have less to legitimately oppose about the US, and would himself be seen as less legitimate—indeed Ukraine might still be whole today.

A new Green deal would probably be in full swing.

Granted, Harris doesn't really care about Palestinians, and some elements of the Democratic party care even less; but Trump cares even less than Harris, and what he will do to the US will be worse.

So while Israel massacres civilians and steals more land, at least under Harris American women would still more easily get abortions, we will have fewer TGs committing suicide (maybe), and health care will be a little more universal.

Also with the 100% tariff on Chinese EVs, the Big 3 will be able to better produce good inexpensive cars (as they've been at least somewhat intending these past several decades), and fascism will have less of a hold on the US.

Therefore: vote for Harris.

If you are a progressive: vote for Harris.

If you are an environmentalist: vote for Harris.

If you are a libertarian: vote for Harris.

If you support voting reforms such as proportional representation, rank balloting, the abolition of the Electoral College, and/or more political diversity: vote for Harris.

If you are nauseated at the idea of voting for Harris: take a barf bag with you while you vote for Harris.

If you are a Palestinian-American who has a relative who was injured, maimed, or even murdered, in Gaza, you should still vote for Harris, because again, Trump doesn't care about them either, but at least you, as an American citizen, will get a better deal Harris than under Trump.

(I'm not entirely sure if I agree with all the above, but I find it hard to refute.)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

When Harris loses this election, which she is on course to do,

If she loses the election, Stein (and to a lesser extent West) will be blamed.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Stein (and to a lesser extent West) will be blamed.

Oh they'll get blamed. The people blaming them will be wrong in their blame of course, but yes, they'll get blamed. I mean shit, look at your post. We haven't even had an election and you are already blaming them.

But if Harris loses this election, its no-ones fault but her own, and those who tried to use abuse as a cudgel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Dems learned nothing after hill-dawg exceptin' how to double-down on shamin and blamin voters

[–] [email protected] -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Like Republicans, Democrats will do pretty well anything to win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Except ending funding for genocide, of course

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

but don't Americans, particularly American Christians and Jews, hate Muslims and love Israel?

Is the media giving us a distorted image of USA?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If it's not showing police destroying pro-palestinian college protests, the public firing of people expressing anti-zionist beliefs, multiple Americans seeing themselves on fire in separate protests, or any news at all about how much influence Israels AIPAC has over American politicians and institutions, no you have not gotten a clear picture of American citizens sentiment.

Here's a poll which shows (among other things) that more Americans care about the genocide than climate change, that a significant majority of Americans regardless of party want no weapons sent to Israel, to end the war, and send aid to Gaza.

This is despite the non-stop warmongering of our press and the silencing of all vocal critics in the public and private domain

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

I think that you are right; and that it's almost as if the MSM (including Fox and CNN) are in a sort of collusion with the government, and that advertisers tend to be timid when it comes to non-conservative politics.