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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I respect this argument. I would like to know how Humans fit into the ecosystem.

Humans tend to remove predators from population centers to prevent Humans from becoming prey. The culling of predators allow more prey animals to survive. Humans find themselves competing with prey animals for fruits and vegetables. Humans hunt prey animals to increase yields of fruits and vegetables.

How do we reconcile that our population centers are built on the culling of predator and prey species?

How do Humans balance protection and food production with the morality of minimizing animal and plant death?

What should Humans do with the bodies of culled predators and prey?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I think if you ask 10 people this questions you will get 11 opinions, at least.

I personally would prefer the reintroduction of predators into their native habitats because the human tendency to squeeze economic profit out of every square centimeter of the planet we inhabit reads absolutely bizarre to me. This kind of instrumental world view where everything has to have a purpose for us is in my opinion an epoch in the development of humans we should strive to leave behind, because although for a time it shaped our progression as a species like nothing else, it's also about to destroy the world we live in and come crushing down on us if we find no better way forward. I believe that in the long term we will have to withdraw from at least some parts of the ecosystem and let the predators do their thing. Our population centers can be (and for a good part already are) so sealed off to them that it should very well be possible to do our thing without being mauled by wolves.

...All this does go a bit beyond the question of honey though. Sorry for the rant there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bees and other insects are pollinators allowing food to grow. Say humans succeed at sealing themselves off in such a way that we can grow the food we need without impacting outside ecosystems.

Would humans still need pollinators? Would human pollinator populations be separated from outside populations?

The idea could inspire some entertaining science fiction. The best writer would probably have a background in Entomology and Horticulture.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Being sealed off wouldn't have to mean having zero contact with the surrounding nature. I think we can coexist with predators while still using some land for agriculture - just not all of it.