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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Assuming this trend continues and isn't media cherrypicking an illusion to start a narratice, or just Trump being under the weather temporarily, would you rather have Trump as president in a diminished and confused state, or Vance as president after Trump leaves office due to the condition?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Vance as president after Trump leaves office due to the condition?

For so many reasons Vance as president.

First, there is a zero percent chance Trump gives up the presidency. So the more time can be spent infighting, embarrassing themselves and getting nothing done, the better.

Second, Vance as president won't have the same level of cult following him. If Vance pushes Trump out, he'll make enemies. If Trump somehow leaves, the moment Vance fucks up the smallest thing, Trump will shit on him.

Third, Vance doesn't have the Trump "charisma". Vance isn't going to be able to convince people to follow his lead. Vance is a yes man, not a leader.

Fourth, Anything Vance does, he has to take responsibility for. If Trump is "in charge" then Vance can always come along later and say "oh, I actually disagreed, but I trusted in Trump". If Vance is in charge then he has to support his decisions. (And yes I know neither of them will actually take responsibility. Supporters won't care. But the margins that decide elections will and that's enough).


Of course that's all hypothetical and in the terrible future. Harris/Walz let's us avoid that unnecessary pain and chaos.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Excellent arguments

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I mean, which is preferable. Which do you think the country would survive more easily? I also would prefer neither but I find it helpful to imagine worst case scenarios out so I can try to prepare for them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Shooting them both into the sun.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, some of their own people are trying to do that, minus the sun part.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

Nobody is entertaining your hypothetical. Neither.

Don't waste your time considering this nonsense. Vote.