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I've posted some controversial stuff, and I understand why I would be getting down voted for that. But I see some of my posts and comments are in the negatives for seemingly no reason at all? I don't really care about the karma because I can't see it anyway, but I'm worried that comments and posts here are gonna get downvoted and dismissed without further consideration solely because of the negative score, like what would happen on reddit. I suspect someone, a troll, a bot, or a misclick downvoted my comment or post and people just followed along downvoting in turn. It's either that, or I genuinely said something bad but I can't figure for the life of me that it is indeed bad. My prime example is my support post for commenting under certain posts, why did that get the downvotes? And I see this kind of thing sometimes on other people's comments as well, and I'm baffled, is it me who can't understand why something is bad, or hive mind came here too?

EDIT: it seems i wasn't clear enough. a) I'm not worried about getting the actual downvotes. I'm worried about downvotes stopping to be a tool to gauge content. b) I'm not worried about controversial opinions' downvotes, I already said I'm not surprised I got downvoted there. I was talking about totally mundane posts, like that one support post. c) I'm not talking about people simply disagreeing, I'm talking about people immediately disregarding a post because of the downvote count. it's not correct to say this doesn't happen, it totally does and... how am I supposed to prove that? all it takes on reddit is see a comment on 0 for no reason and see it quickly drop to -5

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The question you asked was pretty similar to this one:

https://lemmy.world/post/1674334 which had been asked a couple days prior.

And my guess is that vote counts from different instances should look different depending on which instances each has federated/defederated with.

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and that was not the issue I was having. nor was the fix working

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the same sort of issue, comments not showing up. Which is a pretty generic problem.

It just seems pretty silly to attribute this to a hivemind. Interestingly, when people upvote your posts, you don't attribute that to a hivemind...

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

not not showing up, comments not being posted altogether. the post was about being unable to comment on some specific posts from different instances, being able to comment on other posts from the same instances, it has nothing to do with that. and no, I do, the same type of phenomenon does happen with upvotes, just to a minor degree. because downvotes provoke a bigger reaction. I'm an example. I just listed the downvotes cause that's what I noticed. I was worried about the downvotes because I couldn't figure out why random comments got downvotes. why do these replies keep having to be this kind of gotcha's

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why do these replies keep having to be this kind of gotcha's

In two cases in a row, your first inclination has been to claim persecution instead of any "hey, why might people be disagreeing with me?" Maybe, instead of defaulting to "I am correct, why are these people voting incorrectly?" think about how your actions, comments and posts are appearing to others?

I don't post in c/support community, nor am I really inclinced to read much more of their post history. (Though the community does say to send bug reports to a specific site rather than create a post.)

Instead of sending a bug report in, you've made a very short, not particularly descriptive post without examples, without mentioning what client you're using to browse, not saying when (did this happen during a ddos attack?) This is pretty non helpful from any tech support standard.

So, in my own support work, I would be annoyed if I received this because it means instead of giving me anything useful, I have to coax information out of the client as I would a child.

As to the wider "why are people downvotint/being negative?" I mean, your FIRST reaction to negativity is that everyone else must be a hive mind. Instead of looking for any culpability, you've just determined everyone else must be wrong and crazy. That's more than a little insulting and speaks to a persecution complex. It's silly when trump does it, it's sillier when you do it.

You've basically accused the Lemmy community of being too dumb for independent thought simply because sometimes your comments are downvoted or disagreed with. Not only is that impressively childish it's incredibly insulting. No wonder people are primed to disagree with you! I don't imagine your comments are randomly being downvoted, I imagine you are similarly missing social cues or otherwise being, possibly completely accidentally, a complete dingus.

Instead of accusing everyone else of being too stupid for independent thought, maybe consider what in your behaviour is provoking such a reaction. And be grown up to admit that not everything you say will be upvoted and some of it, will, gasp be downvoted.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had already addressed everything you mentioned here in the post

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If you think you did, then you need to work on human to human communication.