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Aspirin is potent, yes. Feel free to disagree, don't be a jerk about it specially when your comment is largely an absence of argument.
Highlighting bad faith and sloppy argument is more important than addressing nonsense on its face.
You're in here insisting that private prisons can't be so bad, because we're not executing jaywalkers or whatever. That's not worth taking seriously. Politely refuting that as if it's asked out of innocence or informed sincerity would be a mistake. You should fucking know better. The same way you should be able to figure out, all on your lonesome, how potential medical uses for a drug don't somehow make it "more potent" than anything that'll fuck you up over-the-counter.
Benedryl's effects get buck-wild if you take a handful. We let kids buy it. You know alcohol does harm, in basically any quantity, but we still leave it unregulated, except for production standards and age requirements. So the idea that marijuana could only possibly be worse, just because it's restricted, is a childlike insistence on a just and rational world.
Have you looked outside and seen that, lately? Does everything work the way you expect it must? Not one injustice or absurdity, as far as the eye can see?
Are you happier to be called-out at this length?
You aren't calling out, you are gaslighting, and hopping on arguments made by others.
First, by trying to miscontextualize my reply to a comment suggesting it was a conspiracy by the private prison system. Please try not to answer for other people for an argument you couldn't bother to make.
Second, where am I denying the negative consequences of other drugs? Or also not criticizing alcohol? Your argument here seems to basically be there are things that are as bad or worse. It's whataboutism 101, it fails the basic logic check that I also don't criticize other drug abuse in my comments.
My concern is with marijuana because we are dealing with a post about marijuana. I also consider it more potent than alcohol in terms of its psychological affects, but it clearly affects the body differently and in many other ways can be considered less potent - but not in the way I'm concerned about.
The risks for marijuana usage are well known, and it is addictive, but we aren't talking about retaining the same medical controls as we apply to other drugs, we are talking about legalized recreational use. I have those same concerns regarding alcohol abuse, a problem that still exists no matter how legal it is even without adding cannabis into the mix. And they are quite complementary, even affecting the same risk groups.
Your comment is swinging rapidly through moods as it is in logic. If there's a cause on your side for it, I'd recommend you tone it down. I'm only stating my concerns.
Condemning a pattern of sloppy argument is what I told you I'm doing and I plainly am doing. All your comments here are relevant. That's what makes it a pattern.
You're saying marijuana must be worse than alcohol. You don't have to make up that I've accused you of calling alcohol harmless or whatever. Your reasons for declaring marijuana "more potent" are nonsense. The context of your reasons - like saying verbatim "the private prison system is abusive, but if it were as bad as you say they would be arresting people from jaywalking" - is just plain horseshit. 'Things can't be this bad unless they're worse' is not an argument. There was in fact a deliberate effort by assholes in power, to make marijuana illegal, despite a lack of any scientific or medical evidence. Insisting it cannot be so, because surely the government has good reasons, and we're just waiting on "an objective perspective" to finally undo this injustice - is several fallacies at once. You can't or won't deal with the possibility the status quo is simply wrong, and has been since before you were born. Like the fact it's not already legal must mean its criminalization remains legitimate and rational... because we live in the best of all possible worlds.
Even glibly using the word "addictive" is misleading bordering dishonest. Pot has no withdrawal symptoms. It's less physiologically addictive than caffeine or sugar, and yes, I saw where you already mentioned caffeine. I note that you're not hemming and hawing about whether caffeine should be illegal. Just whether you, personally, might perchance consider cessation. I also note that all your chin-stroking about known risks does not include the psychological impacts of going to prison. Because whatever the hell you imagine the somehow-still-ambiguous impact is, for this recreational drug that's already omnifuckingpresent, it seems flatly impossible to argue that what we're doing is better for users and for society.
Which is why you haven't.
You've only mused about vague negatives, and spread uncertainty, and accused everyone else of being quite rude for pointing out that's shite behavior. 'But what if you're supposed to feel bad right now? And if you're feeling good, that's also bad, because you might use it when you don't! It'll surely be more potent than alcohol, a drug that can kill you if you do too much, or stop doing too much.'
You underline this shite behavior by reading my aura through the screen and projecting wild mood swings. I have negative respect for tone policing. It's an abuse tactic. Be better or stop talking.
Sorry, my fault for trying to engage with you.
Weak trolling.