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LLMs can’t reason — they just crib reasoning-like steps from their training data (pivot-to-ai.com)

submitted 2 months ago by dgerard@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Banned for using the word metacognition seriously.

[–] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

see I was just gonna go for “promptfondlin” but I’m glad I hesitated cause this is my new favorite ban reason

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

I used to do this and it helped my mental state a lot. LSD refresh every 6-12 months.

gasbag with occasional live one, the most tragic form of bad poster

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think I'll start using "metacognition" in a derogatory way. What a metacognitive post.

The reality is that some of us only have glimmers of sapience, and many not even that.

Funny how all the people saying this always include themselves in the select few sapient ones.

Where does this NPC meme even come from? It's one thing to think most people are stupid or conformist or susceptible to propaganda, but believing a large fraction of the population are "mindless zombies following a script" goes beyond simple arrogance to straight up delusion.

Yea, most people don't think about some things I care about as deeply as I do. As if that means they don't have their own internal life going on.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where does this NPC meme even come from

probably fucking 4chan once again

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It did in fact come from the *chans, but what I'm wondering is how it became a thing. Anons making wild leaps of logic after being told some people don't experience verbal inner monologue is still a couple steps removed from the kind of right wing mainstreaming of the weird idea that most people supposedly lack sentience.

I guess the supposed appeal is in the implicit dehumanization and racism.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

I guess the supposed appeal is in the implicit dehumanization and racism.

yeah, that's actually how I've always read it. looking at people in lives stretched to the limit of tolerance by the pure drive for survival, and instead of having a fucking lick of empathy and going "wow yeah, all this is kinda shitty, maybe we should change it" they go "oh yeah very clearly this person is incapable of self-directed behaviour and action"

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago

metacognition, n.: thinking as formulated by zuck